ArchivedMuslim befriends a Christian? I doubt it!Peace Bushmaster,
Your problem is that you don't know Arabic. An Arabic word may take on several meanings; in this case the word auliyah could be translated as protectors, friends, and helpers. Yes the unbelievers are the Christians who say that Jesus is God. It seems that you don't understand the ways of God. When God was revealing these Ayats, He wasn't just revealing them for those people, but for all generations to come. He knew that the Christians would oppress us, so out of His majesty, He warned us beforehand. Secondly, God tells us in the Quran that not to befriend those who mock and redicule our religion. Christians love Muslims? Get real! If they loved us, they wouldn't be bombing us, killing our children, raping our women. And what's worse is, there people support it. So don't come to me with all this BS. I have many Christian class mates, and teachers. Absolutely! In a true Islamic state? They are first guided, if they refuse, they'll pay the consequences. We don't tolerate immorality. Believe me when I say that I don't have any Christian friends. They are my class mates. I don't associate with them out of school. In my school, there's alot of Muslims. I interact with my sisters, thank-you. . Why can't I introduce Islam. They introduce Christianity to me. Lets avoid these double standards. No it's just part of the character of a Muslim not to disrespect anyone, whether it be another Muslim, a non-Muslim, neighbours, etc... In where? Medina? In Medina, the Prophet participated in battles in self-defence.. For the other nations, he gave the leaders an ultimatum ( which I already mentioned). As I already told you, Muhammad needed to spread the religion and establish an Islamic state. People of the old, would conquer lands for material gains, and in the meantime would slaughter and kill thousands of innocent lives. When Islam came to these places, the Muslims did not kill the innocent but those who fought them, who were mainly soldiers. Also the inhabitants of those lands kept their rights. Islam was not forced upon them. They were still free to go to their Churches and Synagogues. Who said you had to accept Islam. The choice is up to the people. You want to keep your religion, than that's fine. Like you pay tax in western countries, they also had to pay tax. The Muslims did not have to pay that tax because they already had to pay the Zakat, which was their form of the poll tax. The Zakat was an Islamic practice, so the non-Muslims obviously could not pay it. Paying the tax meant that they were excluded from defending the country when there was a war, and it was also to support the poor of the nation. Muslims don't invade other lands. What are you talking about. When practicing Christian armies invaded Muslim lands, were the Muslims given these rights? Absolutely not! Actually no example comes to mind, where non-Muslims have entered Muslim lands and have allowed the Muslims to live in peace. So let’s look at history. Produce your evidence where Prophet Muhammad and his companions forced Islam on the people.. I gave you my proof of a non-Muslim historian who does not believe that Islam was spread by the sword. Ha! It was the tribes of Medina that invited Muhammad to their city to help them sort out their conflicts. They had already given him the power. They accepted Islam, after hearing about him. He already had an Islamic state in Medina. It shows that you don't know squat about Islamic history. The ayahs is not speaking on those who merely reject Islam, it's speaking on those who wage war, meaning physically, against the Prophet, in which case then there's a right for the Muslim to fight back and kill his oppressors. We don't believe in that ridiculous notion of turning the other cheek. The second part of the verse is part of the Shariah and is also applied to the Muslims themselves. Please, if you’re at least going to make a point, understand the Quran by reading the tafsir. This Ayât was revealed when the Muslims were given the command to fight back, as the pagans and the Jews were fighting them. These people broke so many treaties, that it was impossible to keep peace with them, except the few. They had in many instances tried to assassinate the Prophet, and killed off many of his companions. The Muslims were going to stop fighting them for 3 separate reasons. One, if they accepted Islam, or if they returned to their own city. If most of the people in Spain are Christian, then it’s a Christian country. Well the country I have left behind, the schools were run buy nuns, and all the students were Muslims. Missionaries are allowed to run free in my country, so I don’t know what you’re talking about. Also, have you recently visited the Arab states? The missionaries are very busy there, believe me! So quote me an authentic hadith where the Prophet said wipe out all the non-Muslims. Why? Don’t you want to see the dark past of the Christian crusaders? No Muslim army can ever compare to the brutality of these crusaders. Many! :roll: Please do get started You know I’ve always wondered, why is it that one a Jew, or a Christian does acts of terrorism, the individual is judged. But when a Muslim does an act of terrorism, the religion is judged. What you need to read is the legal ruling of the Scholars and what they have to say about such acts. We don’t agree with terrorism. How did he contradict himself? The hadith I had mentioned was on non-Muslims, and the ruling on apostasy is for Muslims. When the Quran says “there is no compulsion in religion” this verse is for the non-Muslims. A Muslims if he/she commits apostasy, it is as if he/she has committed treason. There are also conditions that are applied. To say anything of God Almighty, that one should not say in an Islamic state, will be dealt with severely. If they leave the state, and go to a non-Islamic state, then it’s up to them. You have absolutely no knowledge on the Sirah (biography) of the Prophet Muhammad. Yes we should fight in the cause for Allah. When Muslims fight, we don’t fight for our country. There’s no such thing as nationalism. We have to fight alongside with other Muslims, when they are being oppressed. We fight in self defence. "Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (2:190) "But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). ( 8:61) We came to this country because our country was bombed by America. Why Australia? I already had a relative living here.
The “may” in this verse in an indication that all power lies with God. That’s it’s His choice whether Islam will prevail or not. But we know that it will. It’s just the style of the Quran What promise ? Allah always keeps His promise. What promise has He broken?
I await Jesus’ return, because he will set the record straight. I await the day that he denies all Christians of what the had attributed to him. What 8 items? They read before accepting. Obviously they didn’t find anything in Christianity. My religion is easy? At least in my religion we actually work on faith and good works. Unlike Christianity, where you just have to believe that Jesus died for your sins, and you already got your ticket to heaven. It’s so clear that it’s a man made religion. It’s so simple. You don’t even have to earn paradise. It’s practically handed to you. :roll: Yes it is, because instead of fearing weaponry, we will govern the world according to Islam. The world has never come across a religion like Islam, because of the way we defeated the major world powers at that time, when the Muslims were only small in number. To me, that fills me with pride in my religion. Yes that’s right!
I suggest you seek some councelling. Such hatred is surely not good for one's health. Peace and Blessings be to the Believers |
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