ArchivedHow could you spread so much hate about gays?You are prejudging me, just as you claim all Christian's prejudge the gay community. As to my views of the APA, they are based on what the APA has done and not done; said and not said. As to the studies the APA used I started looking for them in the early 80's to no avail. The reason you can't find them is they don't exist except in the rhetoric of the APA. You have posted anecdotal evidence from the APA more than once on this thread and not empirical peer reviewed studies. Hamer's work was biased; biased to prove homosexuality is genetic; is that why you use the term anecdotal? You can read his study and his peers reviews of his study in "Nature" starting about 1991. There is nothing anecdotal about these studies or the research conducted. You comments on what I have posted are also true of your posts. You can here to debate your postition and so far you have not furnished anything but what I and some members of both APA's and the AMA consider biased and unscientific. You have emphatically agreed with the APA position that ex-gay counseling is harmful in all cases; that is not an implication. So people who suicide who fear they can't change because of the APA's position is not worth anything? I thought mental health experts were concerned about mental health! What walls? I keep saying over and over that I it doesn't matter if someone can change from gay to straight. If they can good for them, their is no point in it in the first place because it is a form of Love. It is your assertion and this websites that being gay is bad and something to change that I disagree with. By spreading all types of lies. (comparing them to child molesters, bestiality, calling it a perversion and unnatural) Which implies that happy healthy gay couples that like being gay, are doing a bad thing. That spreads prejudice into society from uninformed folks. Like we enough to deal with already. I think you have been ignoring it by all of the times I have said it again and again.[/quote][/quote]It is this websites position that any human behavior that goes against God's design for mankind is a sin. That includes adultery, sex of any kind outside marriage, homosexuality, lying, reviling, idolatry, etc. Adultery = child molestation = bestiality = lying = reviling = homosexual sex = ,etc. is the Biblical perspective of sin. There are ever-straights who are happy as a bug in a rug living adulterous lives, lying, reviling, etc. Do you hear them complaining about an opposing position? Nope. Do you see heterosexual's parading with signs that say "Celebrate Adultery", "Celebrate Lying", and “Celebrate Fornication"? Nope. Do you see adulterers forcing America to teach sexual techniques in schools; teaching children that violating marriage vows is normal, natural, and a behavior to be honored? Nope! If you are gay, happy in your life, have no desire to investigate the possibility of change, are not a Bible believing Christian, then go live your life with my blessing. I neither object to the gay community nor desire to see them discriminated against, reviled, or treated as less than human. On the other hand I do want those who are unhappy, miserable, suicidal, and seeking help to change know and understand this is a possible avenue for their mental health and peace of mind. As to the crack in the wall; this is only the beginning of a real scientific approach to counseling homosexuals who want counseling to change their sexuality. It is the beginning (along with Dr. Spitzer's published articles) that may force both APA's to revisit this subject with published peer reviewed studies that can aid many people and with these studies help not only those seeking help but the gay community as a whole. Many evangelical Christians view both APA's the same way I do. Do the studies, wipe the smear of arrogance and appearance of a lack of real science from this debate and the gay community will benefit. BTW, it was the American Psychiatric Association that removed homosexuality from the DSM III not the American Psychological Association. Psychologists cannot treat a pathological condition that is only in purview of a medical doctor. So what the American Psychological Association membership thought of the 1973 action concerning the DSM III is mute. 69% of psychiatrists disagreed with the decision. |
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