YOU have not given me ANY prove that we CANNOT ask the Saints for intercesstion, read what you have posted in CONTEXT.
In doesnt matter who Saul cunsulted it happened, the dead Samuel spoke with Paul. get real.
The passages you have posted from the Bible are Talking about a medium, someone who is ALIVE that talks to the dead on your behalf.
Same with spiritist, For example Crossing Over's John Edward show.You have proved NOTHING.
I have shown you passages from the Bible were the dead have appeared to the living.
So it can happen then, but can't happen now? why?
Hebrews 1
14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
It doesnt say Angels it says SPIRITS but it could also imply Angels as angels are spirits, we too have a spirit so it could imply dead humans.
The key word here is consult, which in this case through the agency of a
medium is to have a conversation with a Spirit and enquire of it . To pray (make a humble request)
to a saint is not to hold a conversation with them. Isiaah is talking about
something which was common practise at that time and which in these days has
a growing following.
To ban praying to the saint or consider it an abomination because of an
extreme interpretation Isiaah 8:19 is to take on a religious Pol Pot like
mentality.
You must also put Isiaah in context of the old testament. Since the
Ascension of Christ, when Jesus took the Old Testament saints from sheol to
heaven, to be face to face with the Father, large numbers of saints have
also been in heaven, and Revelation indicates they also present our prayers
to God:
"And when he [the Lamb] had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and
the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and
with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints"
Revelation 5:8.
The twenty-four elders represent the hierarchy of the people of God in
heaven (just as the four living creatures represent the hierarchy of the
angels of God in heaven), and here they are shown presenting our prayers to
God under the symbol of incense (which is, in fact, what incense symbolizes
in church, since it is a pleasing smell which rises upward).
One might object, saying, "But maybe those weren't prayers to the saints but
prayers to God!" This may well be true. However, a person who says this only
digs the hole deeper for himself since this would mean that those in heaven
are aware of prayers which weren't even directed to them!
Scripture directs us to pray to those in heaven and ask them to pray with
us. Thus in Psalm 103, we pray, "Bless the Lord, O you his angels, you mighty
ones who do his word, hearkening to the voice of his word! Bless the Lord,
all his hosts, his ministers that do his will!" (Ps. 103:20-21). And in
Psalm 148 we pray, "Praise the Lord! Praise the Lord from the heavens,
praise him in the heights! Praise him, all his angels, praise him, all his
host!" (Ps. 148:1-2)
Mark 12:26-27
"As for the dead being raised, have you not read in the Book of Moses, in
> the passage about the bush, how God told him, 'I am the God of Abraham,
> (the) God of Isaac, and (the) God of Jacob'? He is not God of the dead
but of the living."
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