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I suggest that you get another Christian whom you respect and regard as mature (maybe your minister or someone?) to read my posts and get them to explain it to you?
Why is not Jesus Christ, James and Paul good enough?"
Because you seem to have great problems understanding what Jesus is saying half the time. The other two are in the grave and spiritism is forbidden by God!
"Ok this is what you are saying RIGHT?
SIN: Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
NOT SIN: "unless you dwell upon it and subsequently act upon them is it wrong!"
But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment..
Why shall he be in danger of any judgment, he is just being tempted! This person has nothing wrong neither!"
The temptation to kill (murder), like all other temptation, is not sin until you dwell upon it and it develops into desire. "Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death." (Jas.1:15).
If this is not true then you must believe that when Jesus was tempted in every way(Heb.4:15) he also sinned (even though the same verse explicitly says that he was without sin?!)
To answer your question, the man is in danger of judgement because he has obviously dwelt on his temptation to the point of desire which has in turn given birth to sin etc. and so his guilt and subsequent judgement is rightly deserved.
"SIN: Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
NOT SIN: "unless you dwell upon it and subsequently act upon them is it wrong!"
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
This person has nothing wrong neither!"
Again, if the person is looking on another person to lust after them (irrespective of whether it is lust of a hetero or homosexual nature) then they have obviously dwelt upon their temptation to the point of desire which has then given birth to sin etc. (Jas.1:15), and so their guilt and subsequent judgement is also deserved.
"Does God say it's ok to Lust?
But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed which leads to sin. It's his own Lust that makes him tempted in the first place which he then tells them to abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul and that they should no longer live the rest of his lifes in the flesh to the lusts of it, but to the will of God. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world."
No! God does not say that it is OK to lust, ever, and neither do I.
(If what you say about Jas.1:14 is correct "It's his own Lust that makes him tempted in the first place" then apply that interpretation to Heb.4:15 - Do you really believe that that is also true in the case of Heb.4:15 with reference to Jesus?!)
So although what James says in 1:14 is true, it is not the whole truth (see my signature below) or else Jesus also lusted (just like the rest of us), since scripture declares that he was tempted, and if he did then he was not perfect and therefore not God either?!
Either that or the scriptures blatantly contradict each other and are therefore NOT the Word of God (which I don't think either of us for one moment believes)?!
When Jesus was tempted in the wilderness Satan tried to appeal to Jesus' "lust" for food (he was hungry) by trying to get him to turn stones into bread so that he could eat. Jesus, however, rejected this appeal and rebutted Satans temptations by taking his own thoughts captive and submitting them to the Lordship of His Father (a variation on 2Cor.10:5). In this way Jesus (as a man) preserved his sinless Nature. Jesus showed that although he was tempted in every way, he never allowed himself to succombe to lust of any kind (including lust for food). If a man is drawn away of his own lust, as James puts it, then he has already given in to the temptation (unlike Jesus and those believers (including those with homosexual orientations) who submit to the Word of God and do not allow ourselves to be controlled by our lusts (2Cor.10:5).
What Jesus did, in taking His every thought captive and rejecting the temptations of the Evil one before they could get a foothold, we are also commanded to do (2Cor.10:5). In the same way, if we do that, we too shall refrain from sining even in the midst of our temptations.
"hmm seems the Bible disagrees with you!"
Actually, no it doesn't. Especially since I have spent the past 30 years or so conforming myself to it.
Yours, in His service,
Simonline.