Christian/Muslim ThreadsThe Trinity is Mathematically impossibleReally? Did your depth studies reveal to you why man and God was seperated? Why the veil got torn when Jesus died? You can't get any logical explanation from Quran so you conjecture saying I am on this world for a test. Who called for that test? I ain't want no test, why do I have to go thru a test? Is God playing with us, sending us to this world for a test and then telling us that he will guide who he is pleased with? What kind of justice is that? If I pray with my heart, I will get forgiveness, and my assurance? NADA! I still may get hellfire according to Allah. He loveth not the sinful man, the one on the wrong path. It is like you are father to your son and he smokes pot, you don't love him anymore. Read the bible that you have before, find the Prodigal Son story and meditate on it. The Torah consists of the Books of Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. Isaiah is not in the Torah and therefore your response is not valid. The Torah did not say to believe in the coming of Jesus, because Jesus was a prophet of God. Nothing more. Jesus never said he was God or a part of a Trinity because he prayed to and preached about the One True God. Remember, he was Jewish, and Jews believe in One God. The word Trinity is not found in the Bible because it was thought up in the Council of Nicea. The Trinity is a contradictory theory and has no ground. Nobody preached the Trinity [except for Paul, and Paul never met saw spoke or touched Jesus and was Shunned by the original 12 Apostles] in the Bible. God did not sacrifice Jesus before Adam because God clearly states in the Bible that HE is the only Savior, NOT JESUS. Those are my answers. Where are yours? What is scary is YOU DON'T MAKE SENSE buddy! What are you saying? Let's read the verse again; Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. What people are you talking about? You know what name Jesus means? I didn't think so... Therefore the Lord himself will give you [ 7:14 The Hebrew is plural. ] a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and [ 7:14 Masoretic Text; Dead Sea Scrolls [ and he ] or [ and they ] ] will call him Immanuel. [ 7:14 [ Immanuel ] means [ God with us ] . ] [Taken from www.biblegateway.com ] Since your lack of understanding showed itself to many people on this forum I am going to ask you to bring me the verse since I have no idea what you are talking about! You interpret the Bible in your own weird ways, and it doesn't make sense. John 17:11 11I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name--the name you gave me--so that they may be one as we are one. [Taken from www.biblegateway.com ] Look at that picture, you know what it is; it is a letter from the man you call a prophet. "Peace be upon the one who follows the right path! I call you to Islam. Accept my call, and you shall be unharmed. I am God's Messenger to mankind, and the word shall be carried out upon the miscreants. If, therefore, you recognize Islam, I shall bestow power upon you. But if you refuse to accept Islam, your power shall vanish, my horses shall camp on the expanse of your territory and my prophecy shall prevail in your kingdom." I am not seeing where it says 'convert to Islam or you all will die.' Now do you know the reasons behind Crusades? Or the Inquisition? No! Do you have Biblical support for these events? No! Yes and yes. The Crusades were the Church's attempt to take the Holy Lands from the Muslims. It took them three tries before they realized they wern't going to do it. The Spanish Inquisition is pretty disturbing. The Church went around torturing and killing people who would not convert. Let me ask you, those hijackers who SLAMmed the planes onto buildings, were they muslim? Did they serve Allah's purpose and accomplished His will? You said you were a Muslim once. If that is true, you wouldn't even have to ask yourself this question. Those sick people are TERRORISTS. NOT MUSLIMS. Many an Islamic Scholar has denounced the attacks. I have already explained to you, but you continue run in circles. I care less if you don't want to understand, you repeat the same questions. Read the above post. Trinity is NOT THREE GODS! Lessee...God in Heaven.... God on Earth... God in Spirit... one....two....three. He was spiritually perfect, until he sinned. God's perfect creation. God didn't create him as a ROBOT so he had freewill to sin. He felt short to God's glory. How did you study GENESIS? About your last sentence which is in complete ignorance of the Scripture READ GALATIANS 5:22 it will tell you about the orgies you desire. Spiritually, yes. All around, no. That orgy comment was called sarcasm Nonsense! We are all seeing the fruits of your depth studies. Not if you aren't willing to listen. That is the english version of the Quran kiddo, what does the original arabic version say? Let me give you a hint... Thalaathah or thaalith thalaathah ... Well, if you wanted Arabic you should have asked for it. I am not psychic. Ya ahla alkitabi la taghloo fee deenikum wala taqooloo AAala Allahi illa alhaqqa innama almaseehu AAeesa ibnu maryama rasoolu Allahi wakalimatuhu alqaha ila maryama waroohun minhu faaminoo biAllahi warusulihi wala taqooloo thalathatun intahoo khayran lakum innama Allahu ilahun wahidun subhanahu an yakoona lahu waladun lahu ma fee alssamawati wama fee al-ardi wakafa biAllahi wakeelan al-Qur'an Surah 4:171 |
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