Christian/Muslim ThreadsMr Kenneth L. JenkinsCarol do you visit church? If yes what particular church you visit? Ok here is my view of religion: Religion must suit for the following conditions: 1.It must be simple. Islam and Christianity are the simplest religions in the earth. To be muslim you have to just say Shahadah by heart and in Christianity you have to believe in Jesus(am I right?) But still these two religions are very simple. Their doctrine is very clear. But even here there is some distinctions. Islam only needs shahadah (by heart) and de facto you are a Muslim. But in Christianity one thing confused me very much when I first came to the USA. In the second day of my visit one guy approached to me and asked are you asked Jesus to forgive your sins? (I can’t recall but it was something like this) I said that I am asked and short while when he gone another guy came to me and invited to another church. Even here in forum I received PM concerning Daniel Prophecy. I will not tell you who and what did he write but AFAIK he is rejecting trinity. So my question is If one wants to become muslim he is going to the nearest mosque, And if one wants to become Christian where he has to go? Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox? 2.It must be Universal. Again Both religions are Universal. Contrary to religions like Judaism you don’t have to be certain nation or chosen people. Anybody can become Christian or Muslim? But again here as I said before we have only one place which is called mosque and while praying there is no distinction concerning race, color, age, political status and so on so forth. Everybody is equal. However in Christianity blacks have their own church, I saw Hispanic church and so on so forth. SO question is why you have this distinctions? 3.Flexible: Religion must be flexible. Again both religions are very flexible. But throughout the history Islam was more flexible than Christianity. Just one example Theory of evolution. Islam will never accept this atheistic theory. But Church (pope) said that they are admitting theory of evolution here is the link. http://www.2think.org/pope.shtml So question: Is the religion must be adjusted according to modern life and development or life must be adjusted according to religion? Then why are you calling yourself Christian if the religion is not important? Why you can’t have the relationship with him without religion? And how you are having relationship with him? I mean particular rituals or you are just by heart? Do you perform special rituals like Muslims or Buddhists? Carol one question and I need honest answer. Do you scare of death? Well again I will not agree with you. The people changing his religion but not his faith right? So can I say that he did not satisfied with the way to approaching to God and that’s why He is seeking other in his opinion better way to approach?
Ok assume Muhammad (pbuh) came to restore true religion. ISLAM is derived from the Arabic root "SALEMA": peace, purity, submission and obedience. In the religious sense, Islam means submission to the will of God and obedience to His law. So logically He did not invent new religion otherwise we would call this religion Muhammedanism. But He claimed the religion Islam – obedience to God In fact there is nothing new in his teachings because throughout out the History people all submitted themselves to God. All prophets that came to earth they just came to restore or in some extent update the religion only one religion. For example Daniel, Noah, Abraham and many others their aim was to guide people to the right way. None of them invented something new and none of them had different God. So Muhammad (pbuh) did not invent something new. He just said that this is update of the monotheistic religion. Like constitution none of constitution is perfect and time to time they need some changes so in the same way every prophets made several amendments but they did not change the doctrine at all. And Islam claimed to make the final amendments that’s it nothing new. In the same way Jesus(pbuh) came and restored religion and made several amendments. About the name of religions Again Islam the only religion which is named not after the prophet or founder of religion. The founder of Islam is not Muhammad(pbuh) but God. Muhammad is just a messenger in islam. One more critical point that Christians usually appeal to Jesus(pbuh) but not to his “Father” Muslims appeal to God but not to the prophet. Please avoid reference to the Bible or what Jesus(pbuh) said. It works in discussions with Christians but in discussion with Muslims this is simply won’t work. You can use it in other discussions but not here that’s why I am trying not to quote Quran. Peace out. |
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