Jovaro wrote:A world without death would be ridiculous. How can you eat a plant without killing it?
Well, that is a good question. But the Genesis text says that God gave the plants to animals to eat, so God must not be a tree-hugger, and He musn't think that plants are something that can be "killed."
Jovaro wrote:What about overpopulation? Imagine the amount of mice there must have been in Eden if Adam and Eve didn't sin. Maybe it was a good thing they sinned. Life on earth would have been horrible by now if they hadn't....
Another good question. I can't say that I have an answer for that one, except that I'm sure that if man had never sinned, I'm sure God would have had a plan to accomodate it. What that would be, I have no idea, and speculation wouldn't do any good. Suffice it to say, if it had happened that way, it would not have surprised God, and He would have been able to handle it.
nick wrote:Radiometric dating isn't something man has dreamed up. It's an irrevocable feature of nature that we can observe and use. Just like the sun coming up, or electromagnetic theory.
Radioactive decay has been going on since the origin of the universe, other wise things just wouldn't work. To suggest it's just arrived on the scence or is some "trick" or misconception doesn't wash. With me anyway.
I did not mean to imply that dating methods are just some sort of trick to try to disprove God. I am no scientist and I don't know how all that works, but I know what the Bible says and I don't believe it leaves room for the millions of years that evolution takes.
nick wrote:I think all here will agree dinosaurs were here before man.
Well, sure. Man was the last thing created by God, so dinosaurs would have had to be on earth before man. But if you mean that dinosaurs were here millions of years before man, then I don't think you would be correct to assume that all of us will agree on that.
nick wrote:The bible says so,
Where?
nick wrote:and gives no exact time span between creation of dinosaurs, and creation of man.
Yes it does.
- Genesis 1:23-31
23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
This passage clearly says that every beast on earth (including dinosaurs) was created on day 6. Then after all of the animals were created, man was created on day 6, too. So they were created, according to the Bible within one day of each other.
nick wrote:Dinosaurs skeletons have been found with meat eating features. So either animals ate meat before the fall or dinosaurs were running around the garden of Eden with Adam and Eve, eating quorn burgers.
I'm gonna go with the latter since that's what the Bible says. BTW, what's a "quorn burger"? I'm assuming some sort of veggie burger, but I've never heard the term before.
nick wrote:Beads, are you gonna stick your hand up and post the following statement:
"Dinosaurs were living under 10 thousand years ago."
Take a look at this article and explain to me how it is that scientists can find dinosaur bones that have not even fossilized yet if they all died millions of years ago.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/3947.asp
nick wrote:And you might as well add:
"Noah took dinosaurs on his ark". while you're at it.
Prove to me that he didn't.