BryanX wrote:Aineo wrote:You don't set the parameters for discussions on this board. If you want a private discussion take it to emails or PM's.
Look Aineo, I'm not setting the parameters for this discussion or whatever you think I'm doing. I am only making it easier for myself because I know that if I ask you these questions, other members will jump in and try to debate with me when I'm asking YOU the question. I only said that I wanted to focus on YOU because if I go on to reply to other people who is trying to get my attention, I will lose my focus and probably get confused.
Am I clear on that?
Again you don't set the parameters on discussions on these forums. If you can't handle an open debate and you are afraid you will loose your focus take your discussions to an email or PM's.
Have I made myself clear?
Jesus never introduced Himself as God the Father
AHA! There you go. Now we're gettin' somewhere!
however He did claim to be God the Father in John 8:58, which is why John records the Jews wanted to stone Him. In John 17 Jesus is clear that He and the Father are one.
No.
First of all, the key word in your paragraph is
"claim". Jesus Christ NEVER declared Himself as God, the Father. He did however declare to be a Man. You want me to direct you to a verse where He said that?
Jesus referred to Himself as the Son of Man quite ofter. However in John He said "Before Abraham was born, I AM". If you object to the word "claim" I have no problem with using the word "declared" Himself to be the I AM of the OT.
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. (Tim. II. 5.)"
If you believe Christ to be God, then who is YOUR Mediator?
Answer!
God in human form known as Jesus Christ. Jesus is fully God and has retained His human form in heaven. In Matthew Jesus Christ is portrayed as fully man, in Mark He is portrayed as a Servant, in Luke as King, and in John as God.
Now, in this post there are about 2 important questions I asked you. Remember that.
You have your answers. Now
you remember this is an open debate forum and you don't set the rules. If you cannot handle an open debate that is your problem. If others respond and you ignore them, then expect to be ignored.