Christian/Muslim ThreadsKoran confirms that Jesus is God...Peace, when i see the word Allah, i think of God...plain and simple. similarly to how the Bible refers to the Creator as simply God. thats how i see it. please tell me how you see it ?! so how do you view the Qur'an? do you accept what it has to say? do you think its truth? does the fact that you believe it's a "replication" of the Holy Bible make it less important to you? do you believe that Allah in the Qur'an is Jesus(peace and blessings be upon him)...is that what you think Islam is trying to show us? just curious. i don't follow... the Qur'an says that Jesus(peace and blessings be upon him) is the Messiah. the Qur'an says that people who say "Allah is the Messiah" are disbelievers...making the believers the ones who says "Allah is NOT the Messiah". then you say that Allah is a man-made God that can never be equal to the real God[Jesus(peace and blessings be upon him) as you say]. but yet you still maintain that the Qur'an confirms that Jesus(peace and blessings be upon him) is God. are you saying that the believers(the ones who say "Allah is NOT the Messiah") are worshipping a "false" God in Allah? do you believe it was the author's(of the Qur'an) intention to show that Jesus(peace and blessings be upon him) is God? i apologize...but what should i say? i cannot read arabic so i cannot really follow you in terms of discussing translations and what have you. i am unequipped to converse in those matters. not true...you just made a statement that caught my attention and i was interested in what you had to say...thats all. i am quite interested in the topic at hand. you'll just have to forgive me cause i'm not much of a formal debator...i ask questions and observe what others have to say...then apply that to what i think and what i already know...does that make sense? i do not mean to divert attention away from the title of this thread...u put a lot of work in and it deserves attention. please don't think i don't appreciate or ignore what you have to say. again, i can't really answer this. but i can re-stress my point and hopefully you can answer your own question. again, i apologize. the definition you provided me stated that the word meant; "to take a third of a thing". is "a third" the same as "1/3" ? i thought so. i used fractions to illustrate what i was trying to say. if you were to divide the "thirds" into threes, you would then have nine parts. each third would have to be split. thats not what i was saying. my reasoning is that a "singular thing", as mentioned in the definition provided, is divided into thirds(3 parts). which is why i asked how many whole numbers this fraction is...3/3(three thirds)? i applied that reasoning to my understanding of the Trinity...which is ONE GOD(a singular thing) being divided into THREE(thirds) equal members[or vantage points](each fully God). it is not 3 seperate Gods, they are all the SAME GOD...right? does this not meet the definition you provided: "to take a third of a thing"? agreed!
you're right. bad wording...i apologize.
understood! i thought you showed the usage of a word that meant a third of one? not three seperate, but three parts of a singular unit...isn't that what the word "Thalathatun" means?...a third of a single? yes i have...are you implying that the third of three(in 5:73) is talking about Mary and Jesus(peace and blessings be upon them) being God's next to Allah? no this cannot be the same...why? because this passage is talking about two others, seperate from Allah being equals to him. while the other is talking about "thirds" of a single Allah(God). how can Mary and Jesus(peace and blessings be upon them) be thirds of Allah? it doesn't benefit either of us for it to be re-stated. all i was trying to show was that you recognized a single God in three vantage points or whatever you want to call them...showing or not showing does nothing to affect my point, which was re-itteration of what you told me about each member being equal. "EACH is the one God, from different vantage points..." three vantage points...yet all the same God?...right? regards |
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