The same applies to you and your book with its so called prophecies that refer to Jesus, and scientific indications. You and the Jews both read the same book but yet dispute as to the meaning of passages.
of course if we agreed we'd be one religion... the jews don't accept jesus as the messiah, and that's our main disagreeance. no matter how much scriptual agreeance we can get with Jews, the main thing will never change.
The same applies if you were to address a Muslim and you were to say that the Emanuel fortold in the book of Isaiah is a prophecy of Jesus would be soo vague muchless cause in the following chapter a woman bared a child whom the prophecy was linked to in the context. But yet no one not even the companions of Jesus or is there any witnesses that confirmed that anyone called him Emanuel other than the narrator of the Gospel who makes reference to the Isaiah prophecy.
Emmanuel means "God with us"... God with us, is the entire christian theology. the real name of Jesus is what was in the name. God with us.
So what makes you think that a Christian as your self can go into another religion's scripture and understand it when you and another religion that share the same book differ in its interpretation and meaning ?
to go into Islam scripture is fairly easy... since we know judo-christian scripture (as well as our mutual differences). yet Islam CLAIMS it's of the same lineage, and says it's own our God and our prophets, and says on top of that how they should be read! Islam is fairly easily dissproven of being of the same lineage... yet muslims are a bit stubborn into believing that.
Our debates here on these threads are only worth it for the exercise and entertainment on our behalf. When there is hostility, assaults, wantoness and mockery made by a Christian towards our faith we have all means to ignore which is the sensible thing for any muslim to do, cause it will be fruitless to respond, which is also a command not to when the signs of ignorance and malicious conceit is evidentin accusation and questions.
do you think we are happy when you adress the bible as a corruption? or that you dissrespect Jesus as being just a mere man? muslim apologetics and propaganda is more worse then any religion apologetics i've ever read... it's bluntly cold and below the belt christian attacks. i wouldn't dare acctually debating another religion with the tactics as i do with muslims... it's debating fire with fire.
you below the belt,
i below the belt.
Loki presented his arguement in criticism about the scientific indication of the Quran, we merely clearified the content, but yet his only weapon of course in refute was to say "VAGUE", then yet tried to link them to former greek writtings which showed no bases in comparison when looking at the Quran it its literal aspect and the original meaning of the words in its explanation which he could only say VAGUE.
it is vague, and i asked you to explain it with the quran... without using science books, if the quran stands on it's own you shouldn't have any problems with it, yet you never answered.
Funny, I wish we could get an actual person with a PHD in embryology to comment on the explanation of the emryological developement mention in the Quran as we presented. It is always a Christian tactical blindness that comes out and says "VAGUE".
well i know a atheist who has a PHD in physics... who makes it his hobby to denounce scientific claims in religious books... if you want i'd be glad to give him his response.
I garrantee if we had some of our old ATHEIST PHD professionals on the topic and confirmed it contradicting Loki, most of the Christians on this forum would move fast to say "We dont believe your translation or you are making up your own meaning to coincide with Science etc".
who says he will contradict me? i have more faith that like all other ridiculous scientific 'miracles' in the quran will be uterrly demolished by him. even more and better then i did... yet i do not fear to be contradicted and i'm open for that challenge? you wish to take it.
and yes you are making up that translation, i wanna see others where muscles is being used... and why flesh is synonemous to muscles to you, and not for example organs.
When the test is put to someone who is not a DIE HARD BIBLE THUMPING CHRISTIAN whom is aquinted with emryology its not vague to them, but when presented to a Christian of such nature its either VAGUE or COPIED or LEARNT from another source.
i only see one doctor being quoted all the time on islam sites... Dr. Moore... hardly a authority... and like i said, i have a christian/muslim/religious despizing atheist with a PHD in physics.... ain't that indepented for you? he hates both our religions equally
Again no matter what angle we may go with this it still comes down to what I quoted above from what I said on another tread. Its a vice versa issue depending on how undbiased the person is, and their obtained knowledge of the issue. As far as I am concerned many of you barely know anything about human embryology.
who made you a scholar in embryology? that one vague verse in the quran? or all the scientific stuff you read in trying to confirm it?
So
Kai Hagbard your statement is an opinion smeared in open bias. Cause there are many other people who are not muslims that acknoledge the embryological development in the Quran by those with PHDs in the field and many more
http://www.it-is-truth.org/Index.shtml .
please quote independent sites, if you wanna proof it with independent phd's.... not only that, their are enough sites on embryology on the web... yet they never use the scientific defitinions muhammed did.... they acctually use accurate ones! uncomperable to something inaccurate!