Peace,
now i feel better...i feel more like we're just talking!
I to the best of my ability try and make my responses easily comprehensible to you but seemingly it is understood often as me misconstruing and twisting your responses, the reason behind this is because of misapprehension on your part, lets start over because its Seems like the Word of God is confounding you so I will break it down to the best of my ability.
thank you! in return, i will do my best to give you the intellegent honest repsonse you would like.
First of all Khaleel you need to relax and don’t let demons overpower you with frustration
i am relaxed. i have yet to get worked up once and i won't ever...just like you i have seen many a conversation get ugly. i didn't want to step on u'r toes. which is why i was re-itterating my point. i wasn't calling you confused in the least. i misread something. the fault lies with me...not you. that's what i wanted to get across.
Sorry Khaleel, but is this how you like my responses to be addressed? By a simple yes or no? I will then from this point on respond with a yes or no accompanied with sufficient explanatory comments that will further benefit your understanding.
actually i just meant for that specific question. i asked something, and i couldn't see what u'r answer was in the lenghty response you gave me. i quite enjoy reading what you have to say. i do really appriciate ur attempts to go step for step with me.
I never accused you of stubborness or contention my friend, I merely said that you seem to be misunderstand some of my commentaries that’s all.
you are correct. u never said such a thing... i was worried you felt that way about me. i wanted to assure you this was not the case.
I don’t mean literally shouting Khaleel, do you remember when John the Baptist was the voice crying in the Wilderness? Well I’m not John the Baptist but I am a voice crying in the wilderness.
Here we go again Khaleel, I’m in no way being stand-offish I am trying to tell you that you seem to be an intelligent person and it is usually required by an intelligent person to give an intelligent response.
good to know. atleast we got that out there...that part about being stand-offish. i hope i myself don't come off that way. as i said...i enjoy reading what you have to say. and thank you for the compliment.
That’s a question you need to ask God, God requires that blood must be shed for the remission of sins not me, are you going against the Perfect Judgment, Understanding and Sovereignty of God? Blood represents life, In Old Testament times The Lord said that whosover sheds mans blood by man shall His blood be shed, this is telling the person that since man is created in the image of God: Genesis 9:6 - Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man. Since the wages of sin is death and since blood represented life, blood would have to be shed as a replacement for the death deserved to man by a Holy God. God in His Mercy allowed man to continue living after sin by allowing a substitutionary sacrifice, however this sacrifice was not sufficient enough to cleanse the inward sin that remained within, it merely covered their sins, the life of animals can in no way replace that of man. And since the blood(life)of animals was not sufficient enough to remove the stains of sin from within, the only way this could be done is by a human sacrifice and this human would have to be spotless without blemish such as with the animals in the Old Testament. The Problem is that there was no spotless human without blemish who can or would perform such a sacrifice of Himself. The most righteous man was deemed filthy in the eyes of an ABSOLUTELY HOLY GOD. When God uses words such as “He counted it to him as righteousness” does not mean that He is righteous according to Gods Standard, nobody can live up to God standard of righteousness. Knowing that no man or animal without blemish was able to redeem man unto God, The Son which came out of the Bosom of God became man(Sinless) and made that sacrifice to reconcile man with God. And only an Eternal Being can remove the wages of sin for all who calls upon Him.
very well...i will do so this evening!
Mainly, Salvation for others and for others to come to the realization of the Truth and to accept Christs sacrifice on the Cross. And I also pray for Wisdom, manifestation of God to me and being one in Spirit with Him and to get to know Him as a best friend. If only you knew about my relationship with God.
we aren't much different. i can only imagine what u'r relationship with him is like.
I am being patient with you Khaleel, if I were not than I would have aborted this thread already
understood!
I’m not trying to purposely point fingers at anyone, I am pointing the finger at the Enemy who is indoctrinating you with very deceptive lies and I am trying to the best of my ability to expose them to you. If you feel as if I am talking down to you then I sincerely apologize, that is not my intention, I consider you a friend and am concerned for your fate. There is a scripture that says” Proverbs 27:6 - Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.” Would you rather that I speak pleasantries that conform to the enemies liking or to speak Hurtful Truths? Even within many churches these days pastors and preachers speak only what the congregation likes to hear so that the congregation may increase in number, but what they fail to realize is that they as shepherds of the flock are leading many to condemnation speaking to those as the Bible speaks of as those who have itchy ears, i.e they only like to hear what sounds reasonable and comfortable to them and not Truthful doctrines of the Bible that will convict them of sin and thus grieving them because they refuse to be corrected. Do you understand my point Khaleel?
yes sir! i understand where you are coming from now.
The meaning of Only Begotten Son speaks for itself. To sum it up it means God incarnate. To the Jews the term”Son of”means of the same nature, and Jesus stating the He is not just the Son of God but the (Only)SON OF GOD is to say that He is of the same nature of God and thus making Him equal with God, even the Pharisees and religious teachers who knew full well in their learned stated that this was considered extremely Blasphemous. Muslims say that we are all sons of God, but the point is that Jesus is not just a Son of God, He is the (Only) BEGOTTEN Son of God. And since God cannot reproduce and Jesus stating that He is from the BOSOM of the Father, He is helping the reader or the Listener to understand that He literally came out of God who existed Eternally. Coming out of the Bosom of God is His way of saying that He is essentially God Himself. Jesus in His Ultimate Humility and Meekness avoided calling Himself Almighty God for specific purposes so that the one who hears and sees may understand with the Spirit. I will show you an example of what I mean: John 5:22 - For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: Here we see that All Judgment is given unto the Son, therefore the Father who is God does not Judge but has given it to the Son whom the Father dwells in all Judgment. This verse in Scripture also proves His Deity: Hebrews 12:23 - To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, OK, here we read that God is the Judge of all, and to whom is all Judgment Given to? The Son, therefore making Him God. This verse will also describe how the Father is in the Son and the Son in the Father, such as the SON from the Bosom of the Father and coming out from Him:Matthew 16:27 - For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.OK, since God is Spirit He cannot be seen this we know, When Jesus stated that He will come with the Glory of His Father, He is telling the Unbelievers that God dwells within Him and will return in that manner as God in the Flesh. There are certain scriptures and connotations contained within the Bible that reveal that the Son is God and the Father is God and that they dwell within each other, here is an example:Revelation 21:23 - And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. Do you see the Unity here? It states that God is lighting the City and it also states that the Lamb who is Jesus is the Light, do you see the Absolute Unity of God here represented in Triune Formula? Another Example:Hebrews 12:2 - Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. How can two people sit on One Throne? Furthermore the Term right Hand(Gr. ek dexion tou theou)Represents All Power and as we Know that Jesus Himself said: Matthew 28:18 - And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power(Gr. Exousia, Authority) is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Suffice to say, the Enemy has done His homework very well at taking the deity of Christ and transforming it to a Slave of Allah.
thank you for giving me something to ponder over this evening!
To say that Jesus is a Slave of ALLAH fulfills Scripture, let me show you:And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. Revelation 13:6,7 To say that Jesus is a slave of ALLAH not only Blasphemes His name but is exalting Himself above God. 2 Thessalonians 2:4 - Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. In the Christian religion who is called God long before the Quran came into the picture? Jesus! And who clearly exalts Himself above God in the Quran? Allah! This may seem offensive to you but to me this is very serious and the Enemy has saved His best deception for these last days and have blinded millions to who the real enemy is by His misdirection. This is done by accusing other religions as being the Antichrist, such as the Catholic Church and Satan cannot cast out Satan as the Scriptures say. Therefore He uses misdirection by sending the Spirits of demons to indoctrinate and pollute their sound doctrine which was once sound. And the final state is that it appears as if it is of Satan, mislead by demons however not Antichrist because the Spirit of Antichrist denies Jesus as God incarnate and denies the Trinity and the Catholic church does not deny this in their creed. So those who accuse the Catholic Church of being antichrist are in reality being blinded by Satans misdirection Tactic. The Quran Denies that Jesus is God incarnate and therefore is the Spirit of Antichrist.
i see and i take no offence. however i thought you said the Qur'an tells you that Allah is a Chief Demon.
Are you referring to the Apocrypha? And if so there is a reason for this. Protestants do study the Apocrypha for the light it sheds in the life and thought of pre-christian Judaism but they reject it as inspired scripture for several reasons
i don't know...is that what they are called? i was talking about stuff like the Gospel of Barnabas, Gospel of Thomas, Book of Enoch etc. do you consider those books not from God as well...demon infested if you will?
Jesus said that He is The Truth and the only avenue whereby we must reach God. There is a straight and narrow path that we must all take in order to reach the Kingdom of God and a deep Chasm that separates us from Him, unless you have wings to fly you will not be able to cross that chasm. This chasm has been bridged by the Son of God who paid the sin debt for all who is willing to accept it, He as accomplished this by His Well Sufficient sacrifice on the Cross when He died for the sins of the world. The Quran takes the very essentials of how one must obtain salvation and annihilates it. Denying that Christ was even Sacrificed is an example, denying that He was raised from the dead is another. This is essentially making it an impossibility to become saved. We are saved by confessing with our mouths and believing within our hearts that Christ died for our sins and that He rose again victoriously the third day. Do you see how the Devil comes to rob men of this? Take a look above at the verse that I quoted, it says that the Devil is a murderer and the father of all lies, he murders by taking away the essentials to obtain Salvation so that He may accuse you before God and so that you may fall into condemnation because you have not accepted the Sacrifice of Christs shed blood. Be not deceived!
i will ponder over this as well.
Sure, I am always willing to pray for others. You got it my friend!
thank you!
Lets just forget about that one.
lets forget about which one?
to be continued...