Christian/Muslim ThreadsIslam respects women!But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery. As for those women on whose part ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, (and last) beat (idribou) them. Then, if they obey you, seek not a way against them. [The Noble Qur'an 4:34]. A number of sholars has wrongfully explained the word "idribou" as "to beat". The verb "daraba" in arabic language has dozens of meanings. In the Qur'an, at least 10 meaning of this verb were mentioned: To travel as in 4:101 To strike as in 2:60, To beat as in 8:50 To set up as in 43:58; 57:13 To give examples as in 14:24 To take away or to ignore as in 43:5 To condemn as in 2:61 To seal a in 18:11 To cover as in 24:31 To explain as in 13:17 In Arabic, "daraba" also mean to separate, to part . So the correct meaning of this verse is: As for those women on whose part ye fear rebellion (nushuz), admonish them and banish them to beds apart, (and last) separate from them. Then, if they obey you, seek not a way against them. This is obvious when we read in the verse that follow: And if ye fear a breach between them twain (the man and the wife), appoint an arbiter from his folk and an arbiter from her folk. If they desire amendment Allah will make them of one mind. Lo! Allah is ever knower, Aware. And which gives further weight to this meaning: A divorce is only permissible twice: after that, the parties should either hold Together on equitable terms, or separate with kindness. [2]. So the error is not the Noble Qur'an but the stoned retarted head of some people who call themselves Sheikhs. check polygamy in the New Testament here: http://al-jazeerah.net/ntpoly.htm And the endless polygamists in the Bible: http://www.biblicalpolygamy.com/ You should read your savior advice to pull the piece of wood from your eye first: If a father dies and leaves $1,000,000 to a family of 1 boy, 2 girls and a widow wife. According to the Old Testament, only the boy inherits all, and the two daughters and the widow wife must live under the son's laws and mercy according to (Numbers 27:1-11) in the Old Testament. This law was put by Jesus himself since Jesus is GOD according to the Christians belief. Quoting rubbish from rubbish books. For more: http://www.answering-ansar.org/answers/ ... /chap2.php http://www.islam-guide.com/ch3-13-1.htm Biblical orgy in heaven: Heaven Christians who never think about Heaven are said to have the three cardinal virtues of Faith, Cope and Love because they are Christian only for what it does for them in this life! Jesus continually encourages investing our time, talent and treasure in Heaven, yet we often neglect it. So, this page encourages us to bring in the benefits and perspective of Heaven while on Earth. II. Heaven Doesn't Reflect Earth—Earth Reflects Heaven We tend to think that all the good things on Earth will exist in Heaven only in some shadowy, vague, weakened, diluted way. The Biblical view of Heaven is that every good thing we experience on Earth will exist in Heaven in a higher, perfected way. For example, after death we won’t exist in a fog of white light or float on a cloud as a disembodied soul. Each of God's own will have a glorified physical body, just as Jesus has a resurrected, glorified body. "Our bodies now are a mere shadow or prophetic hint of a more solid resurrection body that we will receive later, the Artist’s preliminary sketch of His later masterpiece," says Peter Kreeft. This is a key reason why we don’t spend time thinking about Heaven more—we have the wrong image. Kreeft: One reason we have lost our love for Heaven is because we have lost the sense of Heavenly glory. Biblical imagery of jewels, stars, candles, trumpets, and angels no longer fits our ranch-style, supermarket world. Pathetic modern substitutes of fluffy clouds, sexless cherubs, harps and metal halos… simply do not move us... In medieval Christendom, it was the world beyond this world that made all the difference in the world to this world… Earth was Heaven’s womb, Heaven’s dress rehearsal. Heaven was the meaning of the Earth. The Bible is filled with analogies describing Earth as a reflection of Heaven. Paul says that on Earth we see God in a dirty mirror, but says that we who are with Christ will see Him face-to-face. CS Lewis called Earth the Shadowlands of a great city over the horizon. (The 1993 Shadowlands film doesn't bring this out as well as the 1963 BBC version.) The picture the Bible paints of Heaven is organic! It describes Heaven as lush fields of green, with lions and lambs in peace (much like a return to the Garden of Eden), with cities having streets of gold, etc. (In the Christian fellowship I attend we like to think of our group as one "neighborhood in the New Jerusalem.") We don’t have to take our metaphors about Heaven literally, but we do have to take them seriously, because they point to something more, not less, than the images they connote. Earthly physical gifts, and pleasures and passions exist in Heaven where they are perfected, heightened and ordered. Kreeft: To think of the love that made the world, the love that became human, suffered alienation from itself and died to save us rebels, the love that gleams though the fanatic joy of Jesus’ obedience to the will of His Father and that shines in the eyes and lives of the saints—to think of this love as any less passionate than our temporary and conditioned passions ’is a most disastrous fantasy.’" And that consuming fire of love is our destined Husband, according to His own promise. Sex in Heaven? Oh yes, and no pale, abstract, merely mental shadow of it either. Earthly sex is the shadow, and our lives are a process of thickening so that we can share in the substance, …so that we can endure and rejoice in the Heavenly fire. Conclusion Let’s pray for greater excitement about Heaven! Let’s be Christians of Faith, Hope and Love. In fact, our lives should not make sense without the hope of Heaven. Someone should be able to point to us and say "that person sacrifices things in this life because of rewards Jesus promises in the next." Heaven is coming. It is nearer now than when you began this article. http://www.davenevins.com/loveofgod/topics/heaven.htm Is there food, drink, pleasure, and do angels have SEX IN HEAVEN? SUPERNATURAL RESURRECTION- OR ANGELIC BODIES Us, humans, have merely a worm's eye view of God's big apple of the Universe and the mysterious surrounding Heavenly Realm outside of it! So for us to talk about "Heaven" is like a worm talking from inside his mushy apple, about the endless unknown reality of space and light as an "Out-of-Apple Experience", and our talking about "Resurrection" or "Angelic bodies", as the same worm trying to coin his next manifestation as bug or butterfly, as a "glorified worm body!" We realise it remains difficult! Yet we can consult reliable sources of knowledge about the next life, when we read about or had a "Near Death Experience" or other spiritual experiences, OR... if we read the Bible! IF you do--with a non-churchian mindset that is--you come to some amazing conclusions! One of which is very startling!--The fact that angels and us can make love or have SEX in Heaven! THE SEXY SONS OF GOD In the Bible is a very interesting passage, which has been a source of controversy among church people, as most of them have quite a sex-phobic mindset and attitudes. This passage in Genesis 6:1 which took place in the pre-diluvian days of Noah, goes as follows: "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were pretty; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always struggle with man, for that he is also flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; [Editor: giant human skeletons have been found!] and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown." The "sons of God" are the angels, just as Jesus is also a Son of God. But He is called the "only begotten", meaning that He is the only BORN Son of God, because He was the only one willing or chosen, who chose to come down into this life as a flesh and blood human being to forge an escape from sin, by breaking its curse with the sacrifice of His own death and blood. It says, th "He was made a little lower than the angels!" In spirit, Jesus was far above any angel, including of course the rebelling or "fallen" angels like Lucifer. But he was made a little bit lower in the flesh! Angels have bodies too, that can look similar to ours. That's why it says in the Bible: "Be not reluctant to entertain strangers, because some have entertained ANGELS without realizing it" But Jesus' body was lower in that it was like our flesh and blood bodies that are limited in powers! Angels' bodies can dematerialise, appear and disappear, fly and change form and probably do lots of other tricks that we can't even imagine. (Angels struck the Sodomite attackers of Lot with blindness!) Angel bodies are made from superior Heavenly substances; from Heavenly flesh and bones. As Jesus said after His resurrection, when He got back his angelic body that He had before He came down here: "Touch me and handle me, for a spirit has no flesh and bones as you see me have!" [A very good verse for those who don't think there are spirit bodies without flesh and bones!] Then He ate some food to prove that his new glorified body was similar to theirs, and that he was not a ghost! He could still enjoy the flesh!--His new angelic flesh as well! Only by eating?--Or drinking too? And how about exercising? And what about SEX-ercising? Oh-oh! DO ANGELS MAKE LOVE? So, in these pre-flood days of Noah, the sons of God—the Angels—"saw the daughters of men, that they were pretty!" They really liked those girls and the way they looked, and greatly desired them, and so they took them as wives, and "went in unto them!" Pretty sexy, if you ask me!--Biblical language for making love. And these pretty human daughters even bore them sons, which grew up to become famous people! So in effect, their kids were some kind of half-gods, having angels as their fathers! Now whether you like it or not, this can only mean that angels have bodies that are capable of manifesting the same (Although better! No impotency and so on! Ha!) sexual functions as ours, that they can have intercourse! And why NOT! Shouldn’t Angels have the same pleasures or even more pleasures than us? Of course! So, Angels—the Sons of God—must also have… penises, or at least the ability to have and manifest one! I don't think they fertilized those pretty girls artificially or through some miracle! It says they fancied those girls, for what? For just talking with them? Or playing chess? No, they fancied their bodies! They saw they were "fair!" The "lust of the eye!" You can’t get around it. Many churchians would maybe want to, because it screws up their theology! "It is not JUDEO-CHRISTIAN MORALLY CORRECT!" This wouldn’t bother Muslims, as they have a sexy Heaven, and even believe in "heavenly houris", where the Germanic words; "whore", "hoer", "hure" etc. come from, girls who freely share their sexual favors with their saints! In the Heavenlies, Muslims are much more liberal than average Churchians! Lets face it! Allah bless them! Uh-oh, now we've done it! We have now lost most, if not all of our churchy, preconceived ideas audience right here on the spot, if they ever dared to enter this "sacrilegious" website, which suggests that there is SEX IN HEAVEN! "Tsk! Tsk! Of ALL THINGS! HOW DARE HE! CRUCIFY HIM!!" IS THERE SEX IN HEAVEN? Standard Churchian explanations of the above Bible passage are; that these angels were (of course!) "fallen angels!"--As in their concept, only fallen angels could have had penises! Ha! Poor obedient angels! They didn't know what they were missing, because according to these Churchian views, they wouldn't even have been equipped with sexual organs, as there would be no need for them, as certainly nobody goes toilet in Heaven! According to most Churchian doctrine, there is NO SEX in Heaven, as according to them sex was a "direct result of the fall of man into sin!" So these angels had also "fallen into sin", or became fallen angels "in the very horrible act", and as a result must have grown sex organs on the spot, "these evil sprouting manifestations of their impure thoughts", like Adam and Eve had when they obeyed the serpent—the Devil—who promptly gave them these luscious sinful juicy horny sex organs, "so they could "suffer" Churchy abstinence and condemnation!" Ha! How ridiculous can you get! When these so-called "fallen angels" came down or manifested themselves in earthly forms and dimensions, and flirted with those pretty "fallen" girls of men, the obedient angels must have been spitefully watching from Above with blushing faces, listening to all these wonderful moaning and ecstatic sounds that these "fallen girls" and no doubt these "fallen angels" were making down there, while they came together in Angelic Orgasms! Whew! You can just imagine how insanely jealous these "goodie goodie" angels must have been, as jealous as today's Churchians secretly are of our sex-crazed world! As jealous as when they must have watched Adam meet Eve for the first time, when he walked up to her, and fell into her beautiful blue eyes, and...shook her hand?? NO WAY MAN! She shook his little hand! Ha! And it quickly began to grow! And it wasn't long before Adam and Eve were going at it, right there in the Garden of Eden! As it is written: "Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD." (Genesis 4:1) A bit like the following joke! This nun was in a TV Quiz and was asked the 64 $ question: "What did Eve say when she saw Adam for the first time in the Garden of Eden!" The nun was thinking and thinking, rubbing her chin, shaking her head, paining her brain and finally in exasperation answered: "Oooh! That's a HARD one!" The Quiz-master cried out, "That's the right answer!" IS SEX A SIN? Now why did all these Churchy people cook up this "fallen angels" theory, other than to justify their belief that "sex is sinful!"—Which doctrine is actually an old puritan hangover from Pagan religions, first perpetrated by the Roman Catholic Church, and then slavishly taken over by Protestantism, Evangelicals and Holiness churches! But you will not find anything anywhere in the Bible that declares that sex is sinful! Of course, there is sinful sex! Just as much as there is sinful eating, and sinful exercising, etc., mostly dependent on what motives are involved and what measure! Like, if you steal bread from the poor, that is sinful eating, or when you eat far too much and hurt your body, that is sinful eating, or when you exercise too much so your body becomes deformed! Likewise...if you steal sex from your neighbor, it is sinful sex, or if you use portals that weren't designed for it and they tear and get infected and kill you in the long run! Or if you let an unregenerated departed spirit, even of another gender, enter your mind, heart and spirit and take you over with such destructive and unnatural behavior often leading to violence and murder! That is sinful sex. But sex as such is not sinful! Neither is eating, nor drinking, nor exercising! Sex is a wonderful creation of God, His amazing gift to Mankind, that He himself instituted also to keep this His project going! Because without His holy sex there is no procreation, and the eternal new harvest of Heavenly spirits would miss their chance to grow into perfection, without getting this wonderful once-in-an-eternity chance to come down here into this life and grow as substantially as men do in this level of God's wonderful Universe! As it says in Hebrews 12:22,23 "But ye are come...unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly and ecclessia of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men [being] made perfect." There the Eternal City is mentioned again, "Heavenly Jerusalem", God's Heavenly City, with its original inhabitants, the angels, as well as "the spirits of just men" who are in the process of being made perfect! Two classes, among God-knows-how-many more!--Cherubs, Seraphs and even Heavenly beasts, etc.—Angels and spirits of just men! Spirits are spirits because they have not an angelic body… yet! But the last shall be first, because an angelic body is promised them! All the believers of the last 2000 years AND us who will still be alive after the coming terrible worldwide Persecution of Christians, will receive a resurrection body in the imminent Great Resurrection at the soon coming of Jesus and His triumphant reentry into the Earth's Atmosphere! There we will join the already resurrected Old Testament Saints, who were resurrected at the resurrection of Jesus 2000 years ago! WHAT WILL WE BE LIKE, AFTER THE RESURRECTION? Enjoy the following account, when Jesus was tempted by the skeptic religionists of His time. (Luke 20:27-35) "Then came to him certain of the Sadducees (the modernists of His time! They were so sad-you-see?), which deny that there is any resurrection; and they asked him, saying, 'Master, Moses wrote unto us, If any man's brother die, having a wife, and he die without children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother. "There were therefore seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and died without children. "And the second took her to wife, and he died childless. And the third took her; and in like manner the seven also: and they left no children, and died. Last of all the woman died also. "Therefore in the resurrection whose wife of them is she? For seven had her to wife." "And Jesus answering said unto them, 'The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage. But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage." Mark 12:25 "For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven. Matthew 22:30 "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven." We will be AS the angels of God which are in Heaven. He didn't say "will be the angels" as that would exclude the first generation of angels already there! But we will be just like them, "as the angels!" So now you understand why we are so happy, because we believe that there is SEX IN HEAVEN and that we will soon become angels in the coming Resurrection, meaning that we will have bodies just like them, and powers like them! As St. John said, "And we shall be like Him!" Like Jesus! Not the same in authority or stature as Jesus of course, who is the first and foremost top-creation of God! No! But we will have the same kind of body! WOW! (1 John 3:1,2) "Look, what manner of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knows us not, because it knew him not. Beloved, now are we [already in spirit!] the sons of God, and it does not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is." That's when Jesus comes back to resurrect and gather us unto himself and take us Home to New Jerusalem, the Heavenly city! And contrary to public opinion, a SEXY Heaven! I can hardly wait! Can you? Are you ready to go There? Go to Heaven? You will be, if you only ask Jesus: Dear Jesus, please come into my heart and forgive me for all the unloving things I've done, and give me your gift of eternal life, in Jesus name, amen! Thank You http://www.heavenlyparadise.cjb.net/heaven/sexinhev.htm http://www.ncbuy.com/news/wireless_news ... 0DTW030925 |
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