Science, Creation & Evolutionopen-minded teaching supported by scientists, ACLU opposesI don't know for 100% that I am right. I don't think ANYONE should ever make such a claim. I judge the world around me with a critical look. Why do you think I am reading up on evolution and psychology? I want to read their arguments and then judge whether or not I think they make sense. Thus far I have found more evidence that supports evolution that the biblical stories... I don't automatically ignore creationists claims. Not at all, I have been doing quite some reading on True.Origin for example. The 'problem' is that sooner or later discussion about the bible tend to move away from the scientific and towards 'prepared speeches' about the bible. I hear people say things like 'look in your heart and you will find the truth' and more - sorry to say- rhetorical nonsense: Whenever someone says something like that, I know they didn't make that up themselves, they are repeating what others have been telling them. I hear the words of preachers and quotes from the bible, but no real information. If I had a nickle for evey religious one-liner or catch phrase I'd be rich! A 'born-again christian' gave me a flyer once on the street and told me his story: He had been doing drugs and was wasting his life. And then he discovered the 'good book'. I love a good discussion now and then and I tried to hear from him what convinced him to join that religion. After 15 minutes he hadn't answered any question, but kept referring to the good book with all the answers... Most christians - and sorry if this is a bit harsh - are simply repeating things they have been hearing from a very young age OR what they have been told after their 'miraculous' conversion to the lord. I wouldn't be surprised if everyone of you had some traumatic experience that led you to believe. Well, sorry to hear it -and I mean that, I don't wish people the go through painful experiences- but that is just not enough for me to start believing. Most of all because it an emotional choice and not one based on facts. --------- And talking about arrogance, I think there is nothing more arrogant than starting forums about 'gay people being sinners'. Doesn't the USA have laws to protect minorities from such discrimination? Telling young people not to do this, not to do that. Whenever I show friends this forum first they laugh and are then surprised and even angry over the lack of freedom and respect that is displayed here. How can you pretend to love people (god is love, right?) and at the same time discriminate them. Now I'll let gay people defend themselves, but I just wanted to have said it. Do you really think you are doing young boys and girls a favour by stating that masturbation will get them a one-way ticket to hell where they will burn for all eternity? And where does the arrogance come from to indoctrinate people this way without EVER presenting ANY evidence for this? Look at that thread I started about 'souls, heaven hell etc.' What is the best information anyone can give me? 'Souls are made of spititual matter.' Pffft. You can't just make a new type of matter up to fit the stories... |
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