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Are you a scholar of arabic and the koran H20? Why do you contradict koranic translations and tafsirs when you have no qualifications to do so?
How does this contradict the number of 450 by Ibn Kathir? Would you care to show us the opinion of the five other scholars? Your opinion on the arabic translations to english is taken for what it is an opinion and fully entitled to it no matter how absurd it is yours and yours alone but since you proclaim it is incumbent on the majority and you have the onus on the truth and interpretation of islam, prove you are in a fit state to interpret the koran starting with your arabic scholar qualificaitons.
From those stories that gives foundation to your faith that you chose to reject, hadiths. Care to show us your sources that contradict the numbers let us see where their sources are coming from. Run through that again, what are you trying to say here?
What are you talking about? Should we get into another debate about how your koran was collated and amended right up to the 10th century by the dajjal and his scribes (who helped allah by adding 1,000 characters to the koranic text), and how Puin shows the earliest koranic manuscripts to be revision upon revision.? If someone memorised something and they die, and somebody else comes to salvage what they and other people memorised into a book why would they be saying let us compile it before a large part of the book may be lost (are the quraa the quran???) does it not occur to you that parts of the book have already been lost especially when there are hadiths from MUSLIMS that state this is the case??
"we have suffered losses at yamamma and we may suffer loses at other places so I suggest you compile the quran from the leaves, barks and animal skin you have and the memory of those that remember parts of it in case we may lose the koran" to you somehow this does not refer to actual loss being incurred on the koranic text itself, especially when there are hadiths that state such and such a verse is missing, it is unbelievable the levels westernised muslims will go to justify and maintain the lie. Tell us H2O when was the koran arranged in the order it is today, and what was the purpose of that arrangement?
When was the last time someone dictated something to you for 23 yrs and you memorised it end to end without writing anything down, this is just plain ridiculous didn't Mohammed have scribes that were writing down the abomination of a revelation?, are you going to deny this partiocular bit of your koranic history or maybe those hadiths were fabricated. Looks like allah couldn't protect them a pity seeing this were the guardians of the alledge heavenly text. Tell us H2O what ahafeez means?
You are now going to start twisting applications of the english language like you do with arabic (strange thing is if koranic arabic is so clear a child can understand it why do you need an english thesaurus to find varying words that agree with what you want it to say and proclaim that all the other translations are in error and this is what the koran really says?) I am very sorry to disappoint you H2O I can understand the headache you are causing your mother, you are greek you can't change where you are from the first steps to curing the madness that has made you become a mujaheddin for islam is acceptance of who you are. Let me guess at one time too you were jewish by language too? Do you recall a certain Johnny Walker of the taliban fame? Guess who he reminds me of?
The website also has access to the same non translated sources the difference between you and the translators are the translators are equipped to translate the arabic as they are scholars you on the other hand are not up to their level you are in no position to dictate to them what their religion says.
Go to the usc website link I gave, have a look at it and tell me where and what I edited. http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamental ... 09.089.301 Volume 9, Book 89, Number 301: Narrated Zaid bin Thabit: ...So you should search for the fragmentary scripts of the Quran and collect it (in one Book)..." The parentheses are displayed on the website as above surrounding in one book and not surrounding fragmentary scripts, since al-islam has an english version would you care to show us what it says for Bukhari volume 9 book 89 number 301?
. This is not worthy of a response...what are you trying to say here?? the size of the leafstalks stones, barks and animal skin??? relevance?
Anybody can claim they speak arabic,you have been saying this from the beginning that every known translation and tafsir that does not agree with you is in error, what separates the wheat from the chaff? where are your qualifications to say anything related to islam? You speak arabic so does Osama so what?
I was hoping you would tell your audience, you did say how did Zaid know he had the whole koran unless he was of the ahafeez did you not? You then contradict yourself by claiming you didn't say he memorised the whole koran when ahafeez/hafiz means precisely that somebody who has committed the entire koran to memory, H2O for a muslim apologist you are an embarassment.
It seems you have picked up the habits of your foul mouthed shia brother.
Uhm they do not mention any saudi oil prophecy because it does not exist, who agrees with you H2O regarding the saudi oil prophecy? where are their websites? you are so desperate to find anything to deem Mohammed prophethood you are clinging on straws making you a laughing stock, show us one tafsir anywhere that suggests sura 9:28 is a saudi oil prophecy, maybe that verse about the moon being split occured when Armstrong landed on the moon right?
Yes ofcourse you don't belong in any sect and you don't believe in sects but you go only to the masjids of the sunnis as opposed to the shias, BUT YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN ANY SECTS. So you realise you need an arabic qualification to teach arabic and interpret the koran and islamic jurispundence pls tell us what your arabic scholar qualifications are I am sure everybody is dying to know.
When? Good grief your posts are littered with ridicule and insults against anybody who has translated the koran into english, even respected scholars of islam, some of them Cambridge graduates yet hearing you it sounds like they didn't understand english, where are your qualifications to dismiss what these people have to say?
Wait a minute, would you care to answer a yes or no question: Do you think your translation is error proof? yes or no?
Excuse me? You think the end game of christianity is to obtain houris (This is where the english whore is derived from how do you look yourself in the mirror with the full knowledge that you are doing all this to get whores) in a fornication wine frolick paradise called jannah? I am sorry but thats your religion, you have been very quiet around the aspects of paradise other than to laugh at it I am sure your fellow muslims will be real impressed that this self professed one man defender of the faith when pressed the best he can do is laugh at his own religion.
Why don't you put it up on a website so it can be accesible to all if you believe you have the onus on the truth of islam don't you want everybody to have access to it? what are you scared of? I would rather ask your al-azhar mentors if they sanction your free lance translations of saudi oil prophecy in 9:28 and that the koran should be interpreted relative to the context when it says fight those that don't believe wether they be the people of the book or not, I am sure al-azhar would really like to know why a non scholar of the language in which arabic is not his native tongue is reinterpreting their religion for them, so for the 1400 yrs of islam only now in the 21st century is the truth coming out courtesy of a greek megalomaniac who thinks he is the greatest koran translator, reinterpreter and hadith rejecter this side of the atlantic? |
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