Omega forget about doctarines and traditions that were tought, this is the reason why I am a none-dominational Christian. It pains me to see this, no wonder there's so much paganism and false doctarines in the churches today.
Jesus is Yahweh, not because I say so but because HE SAID SO.
Person is defined by Webster as “a human being, a man, a woman, or a child.” Yahweh created these so He isn’t these. However, He can manifest Himself as one of these. The next definitions of “person” are equally errant when applied to Yahweh. They are: “the individual personality of a human being,” and “the body of a human being.” By the time we reach the 4th through 7th definitions, we still are missing the mark with “person:” “the body in its external aspect,” “a partnership or corporation, recognized by law as having rights and duties,” “a grammatical category applied to pronouns and verbs used to distinguish between the speaker of an utterance, the person addressed, and other people or things spoken about.” The 8th and final definition, in order of preference in common usage is: “any of the three modes of being in the Trinity, the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.” Here, the word is simply used but not defined and thus it has no meaning. And worse than having no meaning, one has to disregard the 7 most common actual definitions of the word to understand a use that is not defined. Thus according to Webster, using “persons” to define Yahweh’s nature is senseless.
Now, let’s turn to the word I prefer to use. Webster defines “manifestation” as: “the act of manifesting, to make the nature of something clear, an outward and perceptible indication, a public demonstration.” All four definitions fit perfectly.
Daniel is the only place where the word the Hebrew word Messiah is used. Consider what Gabriel, the source of this revelation had to say about Him.
While predictions regarding the Messiah’s nature, advents, mission and message permeate the Tanakh, the title itself can only be found twice in the entirety of Yahweh’s Scripture. Both occurrences are right here in Daniel. With that in mind, we must look very carefully at what is being said…“until the Mashiyach (Anointed, Consecrated, Messiah), the Nagiyd (from nagad—the one who stands out front, boldly and opposite, manifesting and announcing, exposing, predicting, explaining, praising, certifying, declaring, denouncing, expounding plainly as a messenger rehearsing the report; an honorable leader in all aspects of life—physical and spiritual, a Governor and a Prince)…”
“Anointed” means to be covered by or filled with Yahweh’s Spirit. And while that’s important, let’s examine what “Nagiyd” says about the nature of the Messiah. He will be a “manifestation who announces and exposes” specifically what Yahweh is like and what must be done to reach Him. The “Anointed One will stand out in front of men”—a very clear and accurate presentation of the purpose of Yahweh’s Messianic manifestation. God took the form of a man to demonstrate His nature in front of men.
Yahweh preaches Oneness, so there is nothing incorrect about “oneness.”
But from that point on, the “Oneness” position articulated is a grossly inaccurate. For example, I demonstrate that Yahweh’s Scripture is fixated on personal relationship—beriyth—so to rebuke me based on the silly notion that I see Yahweh as “a unipersonal monad,” is a straw man.
Incidentally, the preferred meanings of “monad” are derogatory. Webster’s most preferred definitions says it means “flagellated—or whipped, punished, berated, runner-like and branched like a strawberry.” The second definition of monad is “a protozoan, an element or atom.” Webster’s third most popular definition claims it means “a group having a valence, or a chemical binding of atoms, of one.” Next, Webster claims a monad is something that is an “indivisible, metaphysical, thus highly abstract and abstruse, hard to understand and esoteric entity that displays extensive imagination and conceit while having an autonomous life.” I cannot even fathom why anyone would make up such a disgusting view of Yahweh.
Moving on from “unipersonal monad” we discover that according to some, believing that Yahweh is One, somehow suggests that He is “temporary.” There is nothing temporary about Yahweh. It is one of the many reasons understanding and using His name, “I Am,” is so important; . I Am means Yahweh is infinite in the dimension of time. Therefore, by definition, Yahweh’s manifestations as the Holy Spirit and as Yahshua cannot be temporary.
The Messianic savior and spiritual Comforter manifestations of Yahweh do, however, serve specific roles in their ministry to mankind, so at least that portion of the “oneness” definition is accurate. A manifestation is distinct in the way water, when heated turns to vapor and when chilled turns to ice. These manifestations of the one thing—water—are distinctly different even though they are made of the same substance. And they perform different roles when in their different manifestations.
The quote’s use of “absolute” is also correct. According to Webster, absolute means “being fully or perfectly as indicated, complete and free from restriction or limitation.” And while there are some things that Yahweh cannot do, like lie, be immoral, and visit hell, I agree that the most common definition of absolute fits Him.
But sadly, the authors of this position go astray at “solitude.” Webster defines it as “the state of being or living alone and in seclusion, remoteness.” It is thus the antithesis of personal relationship and therefore the antithesis of the Scripture’s presentation of Yahweh.
As we move on, for the position piece’s "hence" and "therefore" to have merit, what proceeds them must have merit. Since what went before “hence” is cesspool of blasphemous words, hence is rendered moot.
As for “deny,” I see Yahshua exactly as Yahshua presented Himself when He was asked by His disciples to “show us the Father.” It is why I quoted and amplified John 14 and in both Yahshua said that He is Yahweh and that He is the Holy Spirit. And you know what I BELIEVE HIM.
”Coequal” is a very divisive term when it comes to Yahshua and the Holy Spirit. Reason and reality chafe at easy and comfortable definitions. It’s hard to fathom the Yahshua manifestation of Yahweh as coequal as it would mean that all of the substance, spirit and energy of Yahweh, as well as His infinity in time, would fit into the body of a man. And it would require the transfigured and the resurrected Messiah to be identical to Christ on every other occasion, thus rendering the purpose of these things moot. And it fails to contemplate what required Yahshua to ask why Yahweh’s Spirit had left Him on the cross. Equally odd would be the idea that the Holy Spirit as He resides in us is all of Yahweh—thus His complete equal. Manifestations of the same thing do not necessarily have to be equal. For example an ice cube and an iceberg are both frozen water but they are not equivalent in mass.
Trinitarians, as they call themselves, are fixated is on the word “Persons”—something that was derived from the Greek philosophers of old. When Christian theologians first conceived the word “Trinity” and applied it to Yahweh, they used Greek philosophy to make their point. I have read two scholastic articles that were derived from a rebuttal of the Islamic claims that the Trinity of three Persons makes Christianity pagan. Both scholars went to the root inception of the doctrine of the Trinity and thus they exposed the origins of “persons.” In that the Greek philosophical usage was synonymous with today’s definition of “manifestations,” I believe that the first scholars to tackle this subject were right. But when we consider the word “persons” out of the context of Greek philosophy, it has an entirely different meaning. So today, based upon the common understanding of the word “persons” it would mean that there are three distinct gods and AND THIS IS NOT TRUE.
The last line of the quote from the Trinitarian site, simply proves why creating and defeating straw men is a fool’s folly. “In the end, their theology is decidedly unitarian, which denies the the Person Jesus Christ as revealed in Scripture.” Jumping to this conclusion based upon their definition of their opponent is an abomination.
Here is another quote from the same website. Quote: All non-Christians cults have one definitive commonality: they deny that Jesus Christ is eternal God. By asserting that God is unipersonal (one Person) Oneness leaders teach that Jesus Christ (as the Person of the Son) did not exist before Bethlehem. As with Jehovah's Witnesses, Oneness theology teaches that the Person of Jesus Christ was created at a point in time. Hence, Jesus is reduced to a mere temporary "manifestation," "role," or "office" called the "Son." (or "dimension" as Oneness advocate T .D. Jakes)
This clip is worse than the one before it. The Scripture says that Yahshua is Yahweh and that Yahweh is eternal. That is what I believe. As for “son,” Yahshua clearly meant something different than our common use of the word as the common usage would make Yahshua a second generation god. Since that is not true, I believe that Yahshua used the terms “son of man” and “son of God” to demonstrate in a tangible way for us the kind of up close and personal relationship He wants to develop with us—Father-son.
I’m a believer that Yahweh is one God, not three.
By way of quick review, we know that Yahweh chose to manifest His Spirit inside of some of His prophet’s of old. We know that at Pentecost—the Miqra of Weeks—Yahweh sent His Spirit to dwell in, empower, instruct, and comfort His Ekklesia. Once joined, His Spirit will never leave us. The Anointed, Messianic, Yahshua manifestation of Yahweh existed in eternity and yet came to earth 2000 years ago and will come to earth again on the Miqra of Tabernacles . His mission is defined in His name—Yah-Saves.
The Yahshua manifestation, like the Holy Spirit manifestation of Yahweh, are Yahweh and thus they exist—infinite in the dimension of time. Yahweh does not have to cease being Yahweh, nor is Yahweh diminished or even divided when Yahweh manifests Himself in the form of Yahshua or the Holy Spirit. Yahweh uses these manifestations of Himself to “make the nature of something clear, an outward and perceptible indication, a public demonstration.” These manifestations can obviously exist at the same time as Yahweh did not vanish when Yahshua appeared on earth and Yahweh did not evaporate when He sent His Spirit to reside in us.
Omega my friend you would be wise to get a Hebrew bible, get a Hebrew dead Sea Scroll Copy as well as a copy of Greek NT scripture use a Hex or a codec to amplyfy the scripture INSTEAD OF SPEWING the same old doctarines that Man made up. Use Scripture to interpret scripture, not Bibles which by the way have been edited and manipulated by MEN TO PROVE their point, Yahweh will judge them and YOU for corrupting his scripture.