Homosexual Discussion ForumHomosexuality and the BibleAineo wrote:badme wrote:Pi is an irrational number. That's pretty..um...standard knowledge, you know.
Now you are getting technical on me. You have to take the fact I have not taken a math class since high school into consideration and that was 43 years ago.
I am not making excuses, just showing you that your question is irrational, not in a mathematical sense but in the fact you are attempting to build a case on only a part of the description of the brazen sea.
Fair enough.
1 Kings 7:23-26
23 Now he made the sea of cast metal ten cubits from brim to brim, circular in form, and its height was five cubits, and thirty cubits in circumference. 24 And under its brim gourds went around encircling it ten to a cubit, completely surrounding the sea; the gourds were in two rows, cast with the rest. 25 It stood on twelve oxen, three facing north, three facing west, three facing south, and three facing east; and the sea was set on top of them, and all their rear parts turned inward. 26 And it was a handbreadth thick, and its brim was made like the brim of a cup, as a lily blossom; it could hold two thousand baths. NAS
You left out the decorations encircling the lip which should be taken into consideration. You are also ignoring how much water the brazen sea could hold. A Biblical "bath" was equal to 9 gallons so the sea contained 18,000 gallons of water so it weighed 72 tons without taking the bronze into consideration.
Yes, and how exactly would these decorations change the fact that the Bible states pi's value is equal to 3? It clearly lists the circumference and diameter of the 'sea', from which we can derive the value of pi. Unless you're arguing that the Bible conviently didn't account for the decorations in their discription, which still disproves the 'Bible=inerrant' contention.
The fact is there is insufficient information supplied in 1 Kings to prove or disprove your thesis.
Incorrect. You are speculating on the possibility of missing information, while I work solely with the text. If you claim innerancy, that's all you've got.
You are also ignoring that other than the Law (which God dictated to Moses) the Bible was written by men under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, which means men wrote (in there own words and by their own knowledge). The Holy Spirit did not give these men supernatural knowledge concerning physics, anatomy, math, or any other scientific discipline.
So you don't believe in Biblical inerrancy! Thank you; that's all I was attempting to get across.
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