Christian/Muslim ThreadsHow Powerful Is God?Greetings Casey,
Well….let’s review both in context…first the Koranic passages… 21.89 And Zachary/Zacharias/Zachariah when he called/cried (to) his Lord: "My Lord do not leave me alone, and you are the heirs'/inheritants' best." 21.90 So We answered/replied to him, and We granted to him John/Yahya and We corrected/reconciliated for him his wife , that they truly were speeding/rushing in the goodnesses, and they call Us desiring/wishing and with awe/monastically , and they were for Us humble/submissive . 21.91 And who remained chaste/(protected) her genital parts, so We blew into her from Our Soul/Spirit , and We made/created her and her son (as) an evidence/sign to the creations all together/(universes). 21.92 That this (is) your handmaid, one handmaid, and I am your Lord, so worship Me. 21.93 And they separated/divided their matter/affair between them, all/each to Us are returning. 21.94 So who makes/does from the correct/righteous deeds, and he is believing, so (there is) no cover/substitution (denial) for his striving/endeavor , We are for it/him writing/dictating . 21.95 And forbidden on a village/urban city We made it die/destroyed it , that they do not return. 21.96 Until when Yagog and Magog was opened , and they are for every/each hard/elevated ground, they rush down/separate . Now…let’s compare to Luke chapter one (where these Koranic ayahs had their genesis)….not Luke chapter 12 (you came close, though)…. (Luk 1:5) In the days of Herod the king of Judea, there was a certain priest named Zacharias, of the daily course of Abijah. And his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth. (Luk 1:6) And they were both righteous before God, walking blameless in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord. (Luk 1:7) And no child was born to them, because Elizabeth was barren. And both were advanced in their days. (Luk 1:8 ) And it happened in his serving as priest in the order of his course before God, (Luk 1:9) according to the custom of the priests, entering into the Holy Place of the Lord, it was Zacharias' lot to burn incense. (Luk 1:10) And all the multitude of the people was praying outside at the hour of incense. (Luk 1:11) And an angel of the Lord appeared to him, standing on the right of the altar of incense. (Luk 1:12) And seeing this, Zacharias was troubled, and fear fell on him. (Luk 1:13) But the angel said to him, Do not fear, Zacharias, because your prayer was heard, and your wife Elizabeth will bear a son to you, and you shall call his name John. (Luk 1:14) And he will be joy and exultation to you, and many will rejoice over his birth. (Luk 1:15) For he shall be great in the eyes of the Lord, and he shall not drink wine or strong drink. And he will be filled of the Holy Spirit, even from his mother's womb. (Luk 1:16) And he will turn many of the sons of Israel to the Lord their God. (Luk 1:17) And he will go out before Him in the spirit and power of Elijah "to turn the hearts of fathers to their children," and disobedient ones to the wisdom of the just, to make ready a people having been prepared for the Lord. Mal. 4:5, 6 (Luk 1:18 ) And Zacharias said to the angel, By what shall I know this? For I am old and my wife is advanced in her days. (Luk 1:19) And answering, the angel said to him, I am Gabriel, who stands before God, and I was sent to speak to you and to announce to you the good news of these things. (Luk 1:20) And behold, you shall be silent and not able to speak until the day these things take place, because you did not believe my words which shall be fulfilled in their season. (Luk 1:21) And the people were expecting Zacharias, and they wondered at his delay in the temple. (Luk 1:22) But coming out, he was not able to speak to them, and they recognized that he had seen a vision in the temple. And he was making signs to them and continued dumb. (Luk 1:23) And it happened when the days of his service were fulfilled, he went away to his house. (Luk 1:24) And after these days his wife Elizabeth conceived. And she hid herself five months, saying, (Luk 1:25) So has the Lord done to me in the days in which He looked on me to take away my reproach among men. (Luk 1:26) And in the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, (Luk 1:27) to a virgin who had been betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. (Luk 1:28 ) And entering, the angel said to her, Hail, one having received grace! The Lord is with you. You are blessed among women! (Luk 1:29) And seeing this, she was disturbed at his word, and considered what kind of greeting this might be. (Luk 1:30) And the angel said to her, Do not fear, Mary, for you have found favor from God. (Luk 1:31) And behold! You will conceive in your womb and bear a Son, and you will call His name Jesus. (Luk 1:32) This One will be great and will be called Son of the Most High. And the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. (Luk 1:33) And He will reign over the house of Jacob to the ages, and of His kingdom there will be no end. (Luk 1:34) But Mary said to the angel, How will this be since I do not know a man? (Luk 1:35) And answering, the angel said to her, The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you, and for this reason that Holy One being born of you will be called Son of God. (Luk 1:36) And behold, your kinswoman Elizabeth! She also conceived a son in her old age, and this is the sixth month to her who was called barren; (Luk 1:37) for nothing shall be impossible with God. (Luk 1:38 ) And Mary said, Behold, the slave woman of the Lord! May it be to me according to your word. And the angel departed from her. Here are the undeniable parallels between these split passages: 1) Zacharias & his wife are told that they will have a child?….Luke, yes….Koran, yes 2) Will the child be a boy?.....Luke, yes….Koran, yes 3) What will the child’s name be?.....Luke, John…..Koran, John 4) Next, will a virgin become pregnant?....Luke, yes…..Koran, yes 5) Is this virgin considered a slave woman (handmaid)?...Luke, yes…Koran, yes 6) Who tells the virgin this?...Luke, Holy Spirit….Koran, Holy Spirit 7) Will the child be a boy?....Luke, yes….Koran, yes 8 ) Will this child be a miracle?.....Luke, yes….Koran, yes Thus, as you can clearly see…..the Biblical source material for the ayahs in sura 21, are from Luke 1…not Luke 12…. Nice try, though…..at least you are recognizing that the authors of the Koran borrowed extensively from Biblical scriptures… Again...how does this buttress your position....? Take care…. |
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