Christian/Muslim ThreadsNo Proof Quran Copied from Bible, Gnostic or Jewish Sourceswhy do you keep on sticking with the arabic infancy gospel? when you know that this isn't the only book he stole from, and wich you know historians date it in favor of predating islam... and the story in it was known for over 400 years before muhammed was even born, what makes you think there was no oral tradition about it in the arabic christian pensiluna wich made it led to be written down in it's own language. do you really think that trying to refute this will refute them all? you're living in a dream, and clinging to this something because you are to afraid to wake up. and again, it is not neccerary to know who he got it from... If i see John Milton plagiarizing Shakespeare i don't need to know the store at wich he bougth the copy from to know that it was plagiarism... Is it not claimed by muhammed that the quran is fully revealed by Allah? isn't that what the everyday muslim believes? So then, you have The quran who claims the author of everything in it is made by Allah. But since -for obvious reasons- God has nothing to do with the quran i assert this to muhammed of course. Nowhere are the credits given to other older stories, he takes it all as if he revealed it himself, so it's plagiarism... Quran 10:37: "This Koran could not have been devised by any but God. It confirms what was revealed before it and fully explains the Scriptures..." Likewise these verses show that the Quran testifies to the integrity of the Jewish and Christian scriptures that were in existence during Muhammad's time. It's not false, carbon dating is a very good and efficient way to provide dates of scripture, and i think that i allready said in the second post that i do not have the sources at hand for you to provide carbon datings, yet you stubbornly refused to get of the subject to feed your ego... i still have no doubt that carbon datings go in favor of all internet sources wich indicate it being made prior to the islam erra... on top of that and again, there are more copied stories in the quran then just this one... Where do you want me to begin? 1) The story of the Palm Tree [19:22-26] => found in The Pseudo Gospel of Matthew 2) Jesus making clay pigeons [3] => found in History of Nativity, First Gospel of the Infancy of Jesus Christ and Thomas’ Gospel of the Infancy of Jesus Christ 3) Jesus speaking from the cradle [19:29-33] => found in History of Nativity, First Gospel of the Infancy of Jesus Christ and Thomas’ Gospel of the Infancy of Jesus Christ 4) The raven showing Cain how to hide his brother's body [5:30-32] => found in Targum of Jonathan-ben-Uzziah and the Pirke-Rabbi Eleazar In the book Pirke Rabbi Eleazer, we find the Source of the burying of Abel as described in the Koran, there being no difference excepting that the raven indicates the mode to Adam instead of to Cain, as follows:-Adam and Eve, sitting by the corpse, wept not knowing what to do, for they had as yet no knowledge of burial. A raven coming up, took the dead body of its fellow, and having scratched up the earth, buried it thus before their eyes. Adam said, Let us follow the example of the raven, and so taking up Abel's body buried it at once. 5) Abraham breaking the idols [21:51-71] => found in the Midrash Rabbah Midrash Rabbah paragraph 38 “Terah was an idolater : once he went away and left Abraham to sell the idols. Whenever a buyer came, Abraham asked of his age. If he replied, I am fifty, or sixty who desires to worship the work of a day.” so that buyer went away ashamed. Once a woman came, with a dish of wheat and said, `Here, put this before them; but Abraham took a stick and beat down all the idols, and put the stick into the hands of the largest idol. When his father returned, he said, `Who has done this!’ On which Abraham replied, `Why should I deny? 6) Queen Sheba lifting skirts to walk across mirrored floor [27] => found in the Targum of Esther. 7) The lord's blessing of Mary trough her parents [37] => found in the The Protevangelium of James 8 ) The lot throwing for Mary [3] => found in The Apocryphal New Testament and The Nativity of Mary "Mary was being brought up in the Temple till she was twelve years old. The priests decided to give her to a husband. The lot fell on Joseph" -- The Apocryphal New Testament 9) The companions of the cave [18:9-14] => found in the christian tale The Seven Sleepers of Eusebius ..... ... how many proofs of plagiarism do you need? you think a merchant like Muhammed wasn't able to understand different arabic dialects? |
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