ArchivedOnce saved always saved?How would you paraphrase it, then? What is the proper interpretaion of this verse in your mind? To me, it seems very clear that he is saying "But, beloved, I am convinced that these things would not happen to you, and that these things do not accompany salvation, even though I am speaking this way." If apostacy is not something that goes along with salvation, then how can someone who is saved commit it? "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." (Jn. 10:28 ) This isn't direct Biblical evidence? Go back and read my last post, where I address this. Go back and read my last post, where I address this. Go back and read one of my earlier posts, where I address this. Seriously, Aineo..... what do you do? Just reply to my posts without even reading them? I could maybe understand it if my posts were insanely long, or if the post was made a long time ago, but my last post was not that long, and I can't tell that you've even acknowledge that it exists. You claim that I am not going to change your mind..... well, of course not if you won't even read what I write! You implication is that I am willing to take the words of a man over the Word of God. I resent that implication and I think it is totally uncalled for, because I can same the same thing to you, since I believe that the Bible teaches against what you believe. Believe me, I am seeking the Holy Spirits guiding and teaching just as much as you are. So, rather than making personal attacks, why don't you just stick to defending your position and trying to disprove what I've said. For the record, that would include actually reading my posts and commenting on them, not just spouting off the same lines you've repeated since the beginning of this thread. BTW, my claim the you have added to Scripture by presenting contrapositives to statements as just as much Scripture as the original statements themselves is still on the table. You have yet to address it, or even acknowledge it. |
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