Joseph wrote:fdjohan wrote:I will not running. Well, if you say I am running behind al-mufassirin or muhaditheen or some other type of Islamic scholar, I can say you keep hiding behind answering Islam. And you sometime hiding behind CS LEWIS.
Try to stay focused.
I tried to stay focus my friend, but you come to this grumbling thing.
I did not say you are running, that is what you accused Christians of doing.
So you still have nothing to say. Running? How about hiding behind al-mufassirin or muhaditheen or some other type of Islamic scholar when it comes to Quran. It's been a long day. I will answer you on that topic after resting.
You said I am running. That's why I said I am not running
I accused Christian running in term of providing the sources. You seem so hot when we ask you about sources.
My reply was to your convenient fiction Christians are running from challenges.
Our challenge is to provide the sources. That's all. If do not mind about that, then let us make the same rule.
I said, you are hiding behind the learned ones: The fact, nearly all your postings have the learned ones defense for Quran.
That's because there are more learned people out side than my self. I can show you sometime my own knowledge, but not about making Interpretation of Al-Qur'an. Why do you have so much trouble with that? I just want to be honest and more open management in discussion. What's wrong with that?
As though Islamic scholars are Allah himself, therefore untouchable.
No Joseph, Islamic scholar is people who learn deeply about Islam and they never proclaim untouchable. But they make certain basic condition to make tafsir of Al-Qur'an. I just wonder why this thing is so difficult to understand.
You requested source material be cited, this I certainly did, and now you are critical even of your own request. Frankly, that is odd.
I don't understand about ODD you say. we just want a FAIR PLAY my friend, that's all.
Furthermore, in regards to CS Lewis and Answering-Islam. I believed Lewis' analogy of God begetting was pertinent to my argument: And the latter spoke well, on same opinion I have to Q: Q6:101, there was no need for originality. Although CS Lewis and Answering Islam are God's ministries, they are mere men and Christianity does not stand or fall with them. Which appears not the case with Islam and its learned ones.
That's not much different Josheph. Let us not say sarcastic word such "hiding" or anything. Let's discuss thing fairly and honestly. It's better to be low profile than act like an expert. You have right to use any of PASTOR'S or even POPE'S words to defend your own Bible. And so do I.
But you have to be honest that you are NOT better than a Muslims like IBN KATSIR the famous mufassirin or Ahmad Gozali or etc.
As I said before, if person choices to use source believed trusted, this would his business.
Did I complain about it? But if you talk about Islam and it's system, we have right to be more critical about it. I think that's logic right? I read many thread in this forum. I can see Christians can be so critical when people talking or claiming something about Bible or Christianity or something. So, we play fair.
And he stand or falls with that source. All in all, CS Lewis and Answering Islam are not infallible or untouchables of Christianity. You are more than welcome to make a case against their material which I used.