Hi everyone....
I am new here... well just joined up..... anyways.. hope everyone is doing well...
ok... 14:21-22.... i dont understand whats there not to understand here... let me post the translations i have...
014.021
YUSUFALI: They will all be marshalled before Allah together: then will the weak say to those who were arrogant, "For us, we but followed you; can ye then avail us to all against the wrath of Allah?" They will reply, "If we had received the Guidance of Allah, we should have given it to you: to us it makes no difference (now) whether we rage, or bear (these torments) with patience: for ourselves there is no way of escape."
PICKTHAL: They all come forth unto their Lord. Then those who were despised say unto those who were scornful: We were unto you a following, can ye then avert from us aught of Allah's doom? They say: Had Allah guided us, we should have guided you. Whether we rage or patiently endure is (now) all one for us; we have no place of refuge.
SHAKIR: And they shall all come forth before Allah, then the weak shall say to those who were proud: Surely we were your followers, can you therefore avert from us any part of the chastisement of Allah? They would say: If Allah had guided us, we too would have guided you; it is the same to us whether we are impatient (now) or patient, there is no place for us to fly to.
014.022
YUSUFALI: And Satan will say when the matter is decided: "It was Allah Who gave you a promise of Truth: I too promised, but I failed in my promise to you. I had no authority over you except to call you but ye listened to me: then reproach not me, but reproach your own souls. I cannot listen to your cries, nor can ye listen to mine. I reject your former act in associating me with Allah. For wrong-doers there must be a grievous penalty."
PICKTHAL: And Satan saith, when the matter hath been decided: Lo! Allah promised you a promise of truth; and I promised you, then failed you. And I had no power over you save that I called unto you and ye obeyed me. So blame not, but blame yourselves. I cannot help you, nor can ye help me, Lo! I disbelieved in that which ye before ascribed to me. Lo! for wrong-doers is a painful doom.
SHAKIR: And the Shaitan shall say after the affair is decided: Surely Allah promised you the promise of truth, and I gave you promises, then failed to keep them to you, and I had no authority over you, except that I called you and you obeyed me, therefore do not blame me but blame yourselves: I cannot be your aider (now) nor can you be my aiders; surely I disbelieved in your associating me with Allah before; surely it is the unjust that shall have the painful punishment.
basically what it says is in 14:21 the sinners... or rather the followers of sinners like the guys who follow false prophets... they will say "Help us out because we followed you etc..." but the leaders / false prophets will say " well sorry dude... but cant help you out... if what we proclaimed was true then we gave you truthful info... but the fact is we were not guided by God or rather we were not real prophets so our message was not God sent... and you followed us... so lets all burn in hell.... "
in 14:22 now the focus is changed to satan after all judgment has been passed and people are waiting to be taken to hell or heaven depending.. satan will come up and tell everyone that "God made promises... and kept them ... i too made promises but couldnt keep them... and because you all listened to me rather than God... you all will pay the price... so burn in hell"
honestly ... i dont see much to understand here... its all about what will happen during Judgment day ...
BTW about the lil voice in the head... webmaster: you said
1 problem is that if the little voice lives inside of you and that voice is Holy and teaches you how to be Holy then that voice is from God not Satan.
Satan can try to copy the little voice but the true little voice is the same Spiritual Languages that God speaks to you with from the Bible and that is used to detect the lies.
I assume your speaking of people doing good or bad deeds... should i assume that if once a persons lil voice in the head says "give that begger a dollar" its a good voice or rather holy voice... and so it will always be holy???? or if that voice were to say "lets go shoot up on some dope" then its demonic and it will remain that way forever?? i.e. it the voice will always be demonic in nature???
Thanks
Ali