Loki wrote:In the bible there are no contradictions only different contexts wich you can rip them out from. To proof this: reading this site
http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/bible.htm would be in place cause it takes far too much time and space to personally refute every aliged contradiction made in the bible. Therefore here's a list of 'contradictions' a fellow Christian studied and refuted with the given arguments.
I really didnt want to do this, but I will do this and wait for the responses to show the prejudice of some of you. I am not being wanton in this and my intentions is not to disprove the Bible of being the word of G-d. After I see the responses from some of the zealous prejudice christians I will state my purpose of stooping to such level in criticism of the Bible so bare with me here.
KI1 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.
CH2 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.
Was it
forty thousand or
four hunderd ?
PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
1 Cor.1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and wil bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."
Does he want us to be wise or does he want us to be stupid ? Loki was just talking about this in Islam according to what he thinks he understands. After reading those last verses one would be afraid of aquiring knowledge. Yup Jesus said to be like sheep, sheep are stupid they just follow.
ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.
Wow ! G-d commands to punish people by slaughtering the children of his ememies but yet in his own commandments he decreed against such a thing.
Num.31:14, 17, 18: "And Moses was wroth...And Moses said unto them, "Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman, ... But all the women children ... keep alive for yourselves."
Not claiming this is a contradiction. Moses is here telling to KILL every male among the little ones (young boys) and kill every woman (particular women), but all women and children to keep alive for themselves. Amazing isnt it ? I wonder why Moses hasn t been labeled like how Christians Labeled our prophet. I swear if we were to say this was a hadeeth and change the name from Moses to Muhammad they would have many perverted things.
Matt.5:1,2: "And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying...."
Luke6:17,20: "And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people...came to hear him.. And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples and said..."
Was it a
mountian he went or
plain ?
Matt.27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."
Luke23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."
John19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
Hmm so what was it he said at the last moment of his supposed death on the cross or tree ?
II SAMUEL 24:13: So God came to David, and told him, and said unto him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?
I CHRONICLES 21:11: SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destryed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;
I am confused here.
II SAMUEL 24: And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Isreal and Judah.
I CHRONICLES 21: And SATAN stood up against Isreal, and provoked David to number Israel.
Who told David to do what G-d or the Devil ?
"And he cast down the pieces of silver into the temple and departed, and went out and hanged himself." (Matt. 27:5)
"And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed out." (Acts 1:18)
Huh ! which way did he die ?
"And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven." (2 Kings 2:11)
"No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came down from heaven, ... the Son of Man." (John 3:13)
Ehm ! Something wrong here.
SA2 6:23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.
SA2 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite:
I guess she adopted ?
KI2 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.
CH2 36:9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.
Umm ! Which was it ?
ACT 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.
ACT 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.
You still want us to believe Paul's mystical encounter ?
MAR 1:12 And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilderness.
JOH 1:35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;
This is my favorite one. One account states he went immediately to the wilderness after his baptism for 40 day/40 night being tempted of the devil in which another account not mentioned here goes into details of the temptation as he was by himself, but the account above has him doing things completely differentafter the baptism to the next day to the next day to the next where he meet the Sameritan Woman at the well etc. During these times he is suppose to be in the wilderness with the shaytan taking flying lessons.
scarlet - Matthew 27:28
purple John 19:2
what color was the rob placed on Jesus again ?
vinegar - Matthew 27:34
wine with myrrh - Mark 15:23
The man that was being crucified, supposedly Jesus, was given a liquid. Is vinegar and wine with myrrh the same ?
Here is a link with more contradictions
http://islamway.com/english/images/libr ... ctions.htm
Feel free to asnwer them all. I am presenting this the same exact way Loki and some others have done with Quran. Anyhow we are waiting for some replies.
sardab response to Loki wrote:Both you and your friend slyly evade a question I ask in my post above. Try to answer that first. What if Jesus came today
slyly <~~~~ cute
sardab response to Loki wrote:You say you studied all religions available on the Earth, here is a materpiece of your vast knowledge!!
I dont believe he did either. Not in a direct approach but through a christian perspective. Did he actaully take up
the Thalmud and read it ? No ! Did he actually pick up
the Bhagavad Gita and read it ? No. Did he actually pick up
The Dhammapada and read it ? No. Did he ever pick up and read for himself cover to cover and studied
The Analects,
The Five Classics,
Tao-te-ching,
The Upanishads,
The Veda, and mereless to say
the Quran ? No.
So his studies of world religion is merely premature adn dictated to him through Christian bias views. It would take him over 6 years just to learn the fundamentals of all the major religions through deligent study of their book and with the Quran and hadeeth would take someone the same amount of time just to study. I been there, done it and know the time it takes to invest in such a task. Fortunate with me in those times I didnt have to work, take care of children etc that would distract such studies which would have prolonged the completion even more.