ArchivedHoly Crusades...So that justifies persecution of the human beings that believe/practice/study a given topic? My bad - I missed that bit I agree that that is wrong - there's no argument from my side on that... You can equate them as being told that you cannot advertise something that you feel strongly about because someone else *might* be offended. And yes, if you can find an analogy between Christian Rock and Paganism you're more than welcome to make the comparison - I wouldn't be offended by it. That's because I'm openminded enough to realize that other people have opinions on religion as well. Is it my place to tell anyone else what they believe in (and can't prove) is wrong? No, not any more than anyone telling me that what I believe is wrong. If someone felt that I had something to contribute by teaching a Christian class I would either teach it or quit. I would not "refuse" to teach the class. I do have a couple of comments on this little section anyway . 1) A police officer is hired to protect and serve the public. His duties are not contingent on what his beliefs are - if he had to kill someone in the course of his duty (which is something every cop should be prepared to do), would he do it? I doubt it, if he's willing to lose his job because he doesn't feel like protecting the people that don't follow his *personal* morality. If he's not willing to follow through on his job, he shouldn't be doing that job. Period. I would teach a Christian Class if I were 1) knowledgable enough 2) trusted by the school system/parents/whoever to do a good job and 3) allowed to teach it as belief rather than fact. I believe that we all walk different paths - I don't think Christianity is wrong, it's just wrong for me. Assumptions like yours above are inherantly flawed, because as you see me as being a "sinner" and "wrong" because of my beliefs, the only "wrongness" I see from you is your outlook and treatment of others. That has nothing to do with my belief, it has to do with *my* morals - which I believe are addressed later in the post Well, the Gypsies I know have been scattered. I've only known a few (they tend to not be open about their faith because of past persecution by claimed Christians). The ones that I've known have been very giving and helpful - not on a "worldwide" level because they really cannot congregate or organize without being attacked. Buddhists, I'll be honest, I don't know much about. Seriously - I don't tend to focus on other faiths much and haven't done research in this area. I will say that for every Christian that does a good deed it seems as though there are a dozen others out there trying to ruin someone's life - this is from personal experience, not "statistics" or studies. I'm not even going to bother because it's simply not important to me. You are closed minded - whatever research I dig up that supports my point you will claim is invalid or made up, much as the supporters of ID do regarding Evolution. I don't have to because (and this is important) I don't claim that my religion is based on fact or science. I believe that religion is just that - BELIEF. I do not claim that it's scientifically provable or that there's some "higher power" at work. Regardless of my belief, I question it's tennets and its history and am perfectly able to admit that it may not be right. Christians have no more "proof" than Pagans do, however claim that everyone else is wrong without being able to back it up. This is why nobody has taken you up on your offer. How about this - prove that your morality and ethics (which you talked about earlier) came from God. Prove it. I do not believe that the Bible is the word of God, so you'll just have to come up with something else or prove that the Bible is the word of God. That is because we aren't narrowminded enough to believe that we are the only ones that are right - many times we don't even CLAIM that we are right. However in every argument you've supplied in this thread you have attempted to justify your views by the "fact" that is the Bible. That is the difference - can't you see that?
Right there. You've voiced that what Pagans believe is "right" is irrelevant because of what you think is right.
This is so full of falacy I don't even know where to begin. However, I've bolded where you claimed your belief was fact - I didn't even have to go very far back in the thread... |
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