Quran and Bible debateTHIS IS NOT A QURAN AND BIBLE DEBATE !??Thanks a lot man for calling me a liyer...I am not liying...I will change my aproach to you...because this is going no where...I think it is time now to leave this childlesh debate. First of all let me appologies for the way I was dealing with this subject...but also you have to understand where I am coming from...I have been reading through this forum off and on for the last two years...and most of the times you guys hurt me a lot when I see you posting somthing is not true about islam. I do have a great respect for you specially your sincerity to change your life, your sincerity to find the truth and your strugle, the hardship you went through to be what you are today...I really do congratulate you for your acheavements. I was carried out by emotions towards my love of my new faith islam. I can't stand to see or hear or read anything puts it down....meantime you have to understand my great love towards Mohammad (SAAWS) and my GREAT GREAT LOVE towards ALLAH ALL-MIGHTY The Lord of all Prophets from Adam Pease upon him going through Al-Yasa, Ayyub, Dawud, Dhul-Kifl, Harun, Hud, Ibrahim, Idris, Ilyas, Iesa, Iss-haq, Ismaail, Lout, Musa, Nuh, Saleh, Shuaib, Sulaiman, Uzair, Yaqub, Yahya, Yunus, Yusef, Zakariya, Muhammad my the love and peace of Allah ALL-MIGHTY be upon all of them. So please stop what you are doing towards islam, this call includs all of the people who run this forum. Now let me ask you a very important question.....why you are doing this? I really mean it and I want you to answer me truthfuly...why you guys oppened this section of debate in your forum to put islam down!!?? I really like to know your motive of doing this... by the way the jews don't love you ....but yes they will take you as friends like Allah told us...but not as friends as you may think NO...the jews will make friendship with the devil if they have to...and yes in the case of Christianity and Jodasim the jews will take as friends when they have to fight the muslims....do you know why...well to answer this question we need to go back in history and see who invented the new Religion of Christianity...please go back and check history very well ...the time when the jews were living in Palestine under the occupation of the Roman Empire, the jews were occupied by the Romans. Do you think the Jews liked the Romans...they were under their occupation....but what was the main trade of the jews....Religion....the Romans were nothing but an enemy to the Jews....but the jews are very smart ploters....look how they deal with God...look what they did to his Prophets...I want you to use logic no emotions here.....we have to analyse those Jows....OK what the Romans do believe in at that time...remember Trinity...Dogma...OK where is the homeland of these Romans.....Eruope?...OK so the Romans children are the western people today...right? so the jews knew about the Romans Trinity, now they ( the Jews) sat down and they gave a lot of thoughts of how can we make our enemies ( the Romans) into our slaves BUT in such a way that they won't notice it. it is not easy it requiers a lot preperations and thinking...so they did invent this new religion which based on Trinity.... it won't be difficult for the Romans to accept...but they need a ture story, a true person....OK who else but Jesus....they don't like him, they were able to kill him so he was fake ( because they believe that if they can kill him then he is not the true messiah, if he is the true messiah then GOD will save him and won't let him be killed) but some one has to come up and start this new sect....it was Shauol...why not he is the perfect person....everything he was going to do was prethought by the jews.....so this well known enemy of Jesus....became the main figure and the one who wrote almost 70% of the new testement....so the Romans took this new relegion without questioning...they were pagons with Trinity so this new Relegion prom Paul (Shaul) sounds better to them....if you believe in Jesus the son of GOD and take him as your savior and that he died on the cross for the sins of humanity you will be blessed, saved and have eternal life in his kingdom...this sounds very nice to the Romans...this is a very easy way to heaven.... this was the bate of the Jews that they used to convert the Romans....BUT this is not the end you Romans you also have to believe in the Old testement...which has in it the slavery of the Romans to the benefit of the Jews....what a smart plan ONLY the jews can do... today weather you like it or not you have to love Israel, you have to love the jews, and you have to help them establesh their kingdom on earth...in fact the zionest Chirstians are more powerful than the jewish one...so you will fight and die for them while they sit back and look at you and laugh and say look what we did to the children of the Romans...they have to show you friendship but it is a fake friendship ....it is based only for their own benefit.... they don't give a hoot about you nor about your god that they made for you...they just look at you and laugh...Allah (SWT) had cursed them and yes they use to be his chosen people but not anymore. Allah revealed them to us....those Verses that you quote from the Quran are true but incomplete, they don't show the whole picture ( it is like if I will quote to you "Hitler was a romantic guy, he liked Bethoven and he was nice and gentle to his wife" they you will ask me to finish the story because this is not the personality of Hitler ....Well, this is excatly what you are doing with your quote about the Jews )....as an honest quoter you have to post what happened next to this chosen poeple as Allah told us in His Quran.....I am not going to say that you did this deliberately..maybe you didn't see the rest of the Verses?!! I will leave it at that. Mr/Ms mdibbets
somehow I do have a great respect for this person....even though he/she laught at me at the begening of this thread. I am sorry mdibbets, you are right what can I say, My Allah ALL-MIGHTY guids our hearts to the truth, make us better humans, take us out of the darkness and evil sins to the light of His Straight Way, as a humble muslim please let me make a special supplication to GOD...ALLAH ALL-MIGHTY O Allah (GOD) The Most Merciful, The King of kings, The Lord of all Prophets, All Praises and thanks to YOU alone, The Lord of mankind, jinns and all that exists, The Owner of the Day of Resurrection, You Alone we worship, and YOU Alone we ask for help, Guide our hearts and minds to Your way, The Way of those You bestowed Your Grase upon. Our Lord; Punish us not if we forget or fall into error, Our Lord; Put not on us a burden greater than we have strength to bear. Pardon us and grant us Forgiveness. Have mercy on us for You Are our Patron and Protector. Please make us among those who remember You All the times and who think deeply about the creation of the heavens and the earth You made and who say Our Lord!! You have not created all things without a purpose, Glory to You! Exalted be You above all that they associate with You as partners. Give us salvation from the torment of the Fire. Our Lord! Verily, whom You admit to the Fire, indeed, You have disgraced him. Our Lord! Verily, we have heard the call calling to faith: Believe in your Lord, and we have believed. Our Lord! Forgive us our sins and remit from us our evil deeds, and make us die in the state of righteousness along with those who are obedient to You and follow strictly Your Orders. Our Lord! Grant us what You Promised unto us through Your Prophets and disgrace us not on the day of Resurrection, for You never break Your Promiss Our Lord! We love You more than our souls, wives, children, parents and friends, Your way is our way whatever you say we will do with great love only to You. You order us to worship you Alone and make no partners with you we obey. You order us to believe in Your Books, Angels, Prophets, The Day of Judgement, Faith its good and its bad we obey. You order us to establesh the 5 obligatory prayers every day we obey. You order us to fast the nineth month of the Lunar year we obey. You order us to pay the obligatory charity on our wealth to the poor and needy we obey. You order us to make Pilgrimage to your house which was built by your beloved Prophet Abraham in Mecca ( Becca ) we obey. You order us to fight those who fights us, to fight them by your name and only for your glory with no fear we obey. You order us to stop the evil and spread goodess around the world we obey. You order us to spread your words into the world we obey. You order us You order us not to commit adultry we Obey. You order us to stone the married adultress if we have 4 witnesses, evedence of pregnancy or confesion we obey. You told us Alcohol is a sin do not drink it or touch it or sit with who drinks it or sell it or help who sells it we Obey. You told us Homosexuality is a sin don't come near it and kill who does it we obey. You told us lying is a sin don't lie we obey. You told us cheating is a sin do not cheat we obey. You told us stealing is a sin do not steal we obey. You order us to cut the hand of the thieve who steals to have more wealth we obey. You order us to lower our gaze, not to look onto women or women onto men in a way that will lead to sin we obey. You order us (women) to cover our body so stranger men can't see us out of modisty we Obey. You order us not to back bite on people and made it as if we eat their flesh while they are dead we obey. You order us to be very kind to our parents and to take good care of them when they are old and to say a word to them that might hurt their feelings we obey. You order us to be good to our neighbors and not to cause them any disconfort we obey. You order us to visit the sick, love the orphans,help the needy, lift the harm from the road, play with our kids and help the blind in his way we obey. You told us usuray is a sin do not deal with it or be part of it even as a witness we obey. You told us gambeling is a sin do not aproach it or come near it we obey. You told us that anything that will hurt our body ( Like smoking ) is a sin so stay a way from it we obey. You told us that we can have relationship with the oppsit sex only through marrige we obey. You order us to establish your law of destribution of the inherited wealth among us we obey. You told us that only your law is our law and only to obey you alone and not to obey any law that contradict with your law...since you are the only legistlator we obey. You order us not to argue with the poeple of the book unless in a good way and a better way ( I seek your forgiveness O Allah ) we obey. You These are some of the things of each muslim should be doing if he believes in Allah.....now there are a lot of born in islam when they go to the west ...I have to say the ture picture of them will come to surface....it is very ugly I know...well those are not muslims and like Cat Stevens once said " I thank Allah that I knew islam before I knew muslims" why he said that because majority of born in islam are NOT muslims see islam is perfect and has no race....if you are black or white american or chinees or from the Netherland " There is no diffirent between Arab or non Arab, The Best honered and close to Allah from among you is the highest in his love, fear and obedient to Allah" |
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