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YES I DO! I guess it’s because I believe the scriptures ... (Heb 2:14-18 ) Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of THE SAME; … 16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. 17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. 18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted. Granted Jesus was without sin, however, Jesus was neither deity nor angelic. He was flesh and blood. He was as human as Adam was ... hence he is the Last Adam. Why else would Paul juxtapose and compare Adam with Jesus if Jesus was indeed truly not a man!! Hmm!
If Jesus Christ was not mankind like us because he was not created by two sex cells, THAN WHAT ABOUT ADAM!! Neither was he created by two sex cells ... wasn’t he mankind like us (the same goes for Eve)?? And how about his descendants, you and I, what does that make us, if Adam was not mankind?? Fetch my point? Adam was mankind. We are Adamkind ... now there is a ‘new man’ in town in whom his image we need to be conformed to. [Rom 8:29, 1 Cor 15:49] This ‘new man’ is the man Christ Jesus. The same GOD who made a sinless man out of the dust of the earth, the same GOD who made a sinless woman out of the rib of this man, is more than able to make a sinless man out of the seed of a woman ... this GOD did ... this sinless man’s name is Jesus! Classic Platonism ... Classic Gnosticism Let me tell you a little about the Gnostics whom John had to refute in his epistles, 1 John & 2 John. They believed that the flesh hence the body was inherently evil. Only the spirit was pure. Hence they did not believe that Jesus was related to any human being. They taught that Jesus only appeared to be human! [Hence the term, docetic] He couldn’t ACTUALLY be a man ... He couldn’t ACTUALLY be a human being ... He couldn’t ACTUALLY have come in the flesh (i.e. be human) ... He couldn’t essentially be human ... otherwise he would be inherently evil seeing that he is ‘of the flesh’ i.e. human. Hence, John wrote …
What does it mean to recognize and acknowledge that Jesus has ”come in the flesh?” Since the phrase ”come in the flesh” hardly one current in contemporary English, let me quote 2 John 7 from To deny that Jesus was human like us is to border on the leaven/doctrine of the Gnostics! Beware ‘Believer’ beware! Because of their leaven/doctrine, the Gnostics went on to say that at the most, Jesus is the flesh/body, the Christ is the spirit (hence there is a distinction between the two!) ...‘the Christ’ came upon Jesus to enable him to do what he did and at his crucifixion, ‘the Christ’ left him in order for the flesh/body {Jesus} to die. They made a distinction between the body/flesh {Jesus} and the spirit {Christ}, therefore John wrote (1 John 2:22) Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus IS the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. ‘Believer’, just thought you should know these things and above all, acknowledge that the Lord Messiah was indeed human like us (yet without sin) and is now immortalized, at the right hand of GOD his Father. Also concerning ‘the soul’ … read my above post to Omega, where I discuss the scriptural teaching of the mortality of ‘the soul’
Then you go against his holy disciples, Matthew and Luke, who spoke and wrote by the holy spirit of GOD about the genesis of Jesus in the womb of Mary. That’s your prerogative.
This is Platonism. Such a statement would make the philosopher Plato proud! Did the Apostle Paul not say (Col 2:8 ) Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. It was Plato who taught that there is a part of man that is immortal and pre-exists (and always exist) ... the soul The Hellenists and Greek fathers adopted his leaven and taught that there was a being alongside the Father who created all things ... this being ... this demiurge ... is called the Logos. This being called the Logos came through the womb of Mary. This is age-old Platonism and Gnosticism. The heretical Marcion tainted by Gnostic leaven, taught that Jesus passed through his mother, as water through a pipe, into the world; hence Jesus was not OF Mary according to the flesh.
This ‘kind of Jesus’ is another Jesus that the Apostle warned about, (2 Cor 11:4) For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached … ye might well bear with him. Beware ‘Believer’ beware! Athanasius, the so-called Church fathers, Clement of Alexandria, Origen, Valentinus (who incidentally supplied the keyword homoousios) and all who have any thing to do with the doctrine of trinitarianism, preached ‘a Jesus’ which the apostles DID NOT PREACH!!!
Oh really, than why did the Apostle Paul make the following remarks well after the ascension of Christ? ... (1 Tim 2:5) For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; (Acts 17:30-31) And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead. (Rom 5:15) … the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. (1 Cor 15:47) The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. |
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