ثُمَّ اسْتَوَى إِلَى السَّمَاءِ وَهِيَ دُخَانٌ فَقَالَ لَهَا وَلِلْأَرْضِ اِئْتِيَا طَوْعًا أَوْ كَرْهًا قَالَتَا أَتَيْنَا طَائِعِينَ
Thumma istawa ila alssama-i wahiya dukhanun faqala laha walil-ardi i/tiya tawAAan aw karhan qalata atayna ta-iAAeena
Then He aimed/tended to the sky/space and it is smoke/fumes, so He said to it and to the earth/Planet Earth: "You come voluntarily or forcefully/involuntarily." They said: "We came obedient." (41:11)
I have a big problem with what you translated or what you are trying to translate.
"he aimed/tended" Where did you get this from ? The Arabic word اسْتَوَى ~ istawaa means to erect
http://alqamoos.sakhr.com/idrisidic_1.a ... 3%e6%f3%ec . The word following after that is إِلَى ~ "ilaa" which means to or up to . " istawaa ilaa " expresses " erect upwards".
Also the Arabic word “ i’tiyaa “ means to “come together” as it is applied to more than one in that context. There is a separate word in Arabic “ta’al” or “ta’alaa” that means “come” indicating to move in the direction of the speaker.
and then He erected up the sky while it was smoke/gas/fumes (dukhaan), then He said to it (dukhaan) and to the ardh (?): Come together willingly or unwillingly ! They both said “ We come together willingly ! “
When I read that verse that is what is saying. Also we have to find out about “ardh”, in which I cannot elaborate on this verse cause it has a context that tells us more about the “ardh”
What does “ardh” mean. It means “ ground, soil, earth, or land “ We must go back to to the context:
Say (Muhammad) ! Do you then disbelieve in Him who created the “ardh” in two days and you make rivals for Him ? That is the Lord of the worlds. He placed on it (the ardh) anchored mountains on top of it and he blessed into it and he ordained into it its nourishment into four days equally for the inquirers. And then He erected up the sky while it was smoke/gas/fumes (dukhaan), then He said to it (dukhaan) and to the ardh (?): Come together willingly or unwillingly ! They both said “ We come together willingly ! “
Allah created the “ardh” which is described by Allah as being under the mountain in which the mountains are anchored on top of it. Then He blessed it and ordained in it is nourishment. Next, Allah erected the sky when it was gas/smoke/fumes (dukhaan). In order to get gas/smoke/fumes (dukhan) there must have been some sort of HEAT. So some where after the ardh was made and before the “dukhaan” there was heat in order to have gas/smoke/fumes.
*The “ardh” refered to is under the mountains
*There was heat that caused gas/smoke/fumes
*The dukhaan was erected as the sky
Five billion years ago the Earth was formed in a massive conglomeration and bombardment of meteorites and comets. The immense amount of heat energy released by the high-velocity bombardment melted the entire planet, and it is still cooling off today. Denser materials like iron (Fe) from the meteroites sank into the core of the Earth, while lighter silicates (Si), other oxygen (O) compounds, and water from comets rose near the surface.
(J. Louie)
The earth is divided into four main layers: the inner core, outer core, mantle, and crust. The core is composed mostly of iron (Fe) and is so hot that the outer core is molten, with about 10% sulphur (S). The inner core is under such extreme pressure that it remains solid. Most of the Earth's mass is in the mantle, which is composed of iron (Fe), magnesium (Mg), aluminum (Al), silicon (Si), and oxygen (O) silicate compounds. At over 1000 degrees C, the mantle is solid but can deform slowly in a plastic manner. The crust is much thinner than any of the other layers, and is composed of the least dense calcium (Ca) and sodium (Na) aluminum-silicate minerals. Being relatively cold, the crust is rocky and brittle, so it can fracture in earthquakes.
http://www.seismo.unr.edu/ftp/pub/louie ... erior.html
The Earth is made of many different and distinct layers. The deeper layers are composed of heavier materials; they are hotter, denser and under much greater pressure than the outer layers.
Core: The Earth has a iron-nickel core that is about 2,100 miles in radius. The inner core may have a temperature up to about 13,000°F (7,200°C = 7,500 K), which is hotter than the surface of the Sun. The inner core (which has a radius of about 750 miles (1,228 km) is solid. The outer core is in a liquid state and is about 1,400 miles (2,260 km) thick.
Mantle: Under the crust is the rocky mantle, which is composed of silicon, oxygen, magnesium, iron, aluminum, and calcium. The upper mantle is rigid and is part of the lithosphere (together with the crust). The lower mantle flows slowly, at a rate of a few centimeters per year. The asthenosphere is a part of the upper mantle that exhibits plastic properties. It is located below the lithosphere (the crust and upper mantle), between about 100 and 250 kilometers deep.
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjec ... side.shtml
Lets go to the next verse
Let’s now examine 21:30…that initiates another Koranic Creation sequence…
أَوَلَمْ يَرَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا أَنَّ السَّمَوَتِ وَالْأَرْضَ كَانَتَا رَتْقًا فَفَتَقْنَهُمَا وَجَعَلْنَا مِنْ الْمَاءِ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ حَى أَفَلَا يُؤْمِنُونَ
Awa lam yara allatheena kafaroo anna alssamawati waal-arda kanata ratqan fafataqnahuma wajaAAalna mina alma-i kulla shay-in hayyin afala yu/minoona
Did those who disbelieved not see that the skies/space and the earth/Planet Earth, they were joined, so We split/ruptured them, and We made/created from the water every thing alive/living, so do they not believe? (21:30)
Now…here we have the skies/space and the Earth originally joined, and then split…
How does this relate to the sequence from Sura 41…?
Also, again…just how does this relate to what modern Astrophysics tells us regarding the Creation of the Universe?
Horrible translation you don’t even know how to translate the grammar. Let me help you out here but this in its context.
And did not the disbelievers notice that the firmaments and the ardh were both sewed up then We ripped them apart ? And We made every living thing from water. So then will you believe ? And we have placed on the ardh anchored mountains unless it shakes with them and we made on it paths so that they maybe guided. (Quran 21:30-31)
Again the "ardh" referred to here is what is under the mountains. The firmaments spoken of here is plural which is not referring to the sky (singular) that was gas/smoke/fumes “dukhaan” in 41:11 as the "ardh" spoken og here is before the anchored mountians were placed on it in which the dukhaan gas/smoke/fumes was produced after.
Allah said in 41:9 before he placed on the "ardh" anchored mountains he made the “ardh” first. The questionis, is what did He make the “ardh” from ?
The ardh which is under the mountains is expressed was once a part of “the firmaments” which He ripped apart, then there was water.
The firmaments or SPACE, in its plural sense, is made up of gasses. These gasses are Hydrogen and Helium. The universe is expanding, and while it is expanding it is also cooling which tells us that these gasses were at a incomprehensible heat in which all things at some point in the reverse thesis was apart of each other.
When Hydrogen and Helium are heated together it produces mass to that of the condition of the Sun in which the core of our planet in which the Quran is referring to as “ardh” which is beneath the mountains is of such nature. When it is starts to cool it starts to break down into solids liquids and gasses in which water was produced H2O.
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