Christian/Muslim ThreadsQuran - Red Letter Edition
It seems you are finally stepping in line with all the other muslims for the universal soundbite rhetoric: Then by default you also believe God could not protect the zabor/psalms of David which is now lost/corrupted You also believe God could not protect the torah given to Moses and this is now lost/corrupted. You also believe God could not protect the gospel/injil of Jesus which is now lost/corrupted. (It is very obvious knowing the meaning of injil in arabic that Mohammed confused the good news ..which is what injil meant in arabic injil = gospel= good news and thought it was a book..injil according to Matthew = good news according to Matthew, injil according to Mark = good news according to Mark, injil according to Luke = good news according to Luke, injil according to John = good news according to John. Muslim mentality is where is the injil of Jesus?, A complete misunderstanding of the whole precept of the gospels. It is interesting digging deeper in the hadiths to see why they ask these questions, the hadiths say that the first thing created was the pen and it wrote all that would happen, by default every prophet therefore has to have a book, (ofcourse h20 no doubt will tell you he doesn't believe those hadiths but those same hadiths are where he is getting his stance that all countries have been sent with messengers, a contradiction that only the lingeage of Jacob would have the prophetic lineage, and a contradiction with the koran where it mentions that Abraham and Ishmael and the sons of Jacob have prophetic lineage) failing to recognise when in history man began to learn to write, the muslim mentality according to the hadiths assume man has always written, paper or some other means to write upon has always existed...arabic is the language of God, and allah is God's real name. Then I suggest you bring up a copy of the bible manuscript that contradicts what we have today, for you to claim this is the case I assume you have a bible manuscript that precedes and contradicts everything we have so far?
Which books are you talking about, which books does the bible make reference to that are not in it? If you talking about chronicles of kings that were already recorded in later books would you care to cite for us the names of these books and what they contain? Are you sure you are not confusing apocrypha with the bible?
For someone who implies Ibn Kathir does not understand islam, everybody who has translated the koran does not understand arabic properly and the works of esteemed muslim scholars you categorise as foolishness so you can interpret the koran the way you see it and then claim you alone have the monopoly on the truth of islam, it is the case of the pot calling the kettle black Do you have the original bones, twigs, leaves and animal skin Zaid collected the koran from? Where was the prophetic advice to write the koran, when hadiths suggest hardly any of Mohammed's followers could read or write and had to pay jews to teach them, and many believe it was those same jews that wrote the koran (I wonder if you have heard about the copy of the koran in the Jerusalem museum) Where was the prophetic advice to the scribes that wrote the koran to include vowels to differentiate active and passive verbs and diacritical dots to distinguish words when no such occurences were found in the oldest kufi script in existence of the koran? and were only initiated in the 8th-9th century. Do you honestly believe a book has been preserved from a people who could not read and write and made up arabic rules abd grammar after the fact like iltifat? to excuse the blatant errors, and even then the koran is subject to ambiguity and can be interpreted however you like just like you do. Take out the 2 by 4 from your eyes before you take out the mote from ours.
There is a signifcant difference between fulfillment of prophecy and a god that completely contradicts what he said. I find it a little amusing you would compare fulfillment of prophecy that has over a 3000yr span compared to changing your mind within a 23 yr period of so called 'prophetic' revelations. You are now arguing that the bible has examples of abrogation, am I take it you now believe what the bible says? If you don't what good is it to you? You are arguing from a logical fallacy you are basically saying "I don't believe in this book" but "look at this in my book that is in your book, this is proof that what it says in my book is from God"
Why are you quoting Paul isn't he a 'devil' in islam?. Do you know the difference between fulfillment of prophecy and making it up as you go along to respond to local questions, local incidents, and to cover your tracks when your misled converts confront you over the lies you said earlier? |
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