Godschild, I understand what the "natural man" means and this term can apply to believers who allow "knowledge and intellect" to over rule God's truth.
1 Cor 2:14
1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
[But the natural man] Psuchikos (NT:5591), The animal man-the man who is in a mere state of nature, and lives under the influence of his animal passions; for the word psuchee (NT:5590), which we often translate "soul", means the lower and sensitive part of man, in opposition to nous (NT:3563), the understanding or rational part. The Latins use anima to signify these lower passions; and animus to signify the higher. The person in question is not only one who either has had no spiritual teaching, or has not profited by it; but one who lives for the present world, having no respect to spiritual or eternal things. This psuchikos (NT:5591), or animal man, is opposed to the pneumatikos (NT:4152), or spiritual man: and, as this latter is one who is under the influence of the Spirit of God, so the former is one who is without that influence.
(from Adam Clarke's Commentary, Electronic Database. Copyright (c) 1996 by Biblesoft)
1 Cor 2:14
1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
[But the natural man] psuchikos (NT:5591), de (NT:1161) anthroopos (NT:444). The word "natural" here stands opposed evidently to "spiritual." It denotes those who are governed and influenced by the natural instincts; the animal passions and desires, in opposition to those who are influenced by the Spirit of God. It refers to unregenerate people; but it has also not merely the idea of their being unregenerate, but that of their being influenced by the animal passions or desires. See the note on 1 Cor 15:44. The word "sensual" would correctly express the idea. The word is used by the Greek writers to denote that which man has in common with the brutes-to denote that they are under the influence of the senses, or the mere animal nature, in opposition to reason and conscience-Bretschneider. See 1 Thess 5:23. Here it denotes that they are under the influence of the senses, or the animal nature, in opposition to being influenced by the Spirit of God. Macknight and Doddridge render it: "the animal man."
(from Barnes' Notes, Electronic Database. Copyright (c) 1997 by Biblesoft)
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