Trinity DebateIs the Holy Spirit the 3rd person of the Trinity?The Advocate is WITH the Father, and was sent by Him. This isn't some lifeless unresponsive reflection or only a presence of the Father. This Advocate proceeds from the Father and does things. But this matches with: John 15:26 "When the Advocate comes whom I will send you from the Father, the Spirit of truth that proceeds from the Father, he will testify to me. John 14:26 But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, will teach you all things and remind you of everything I have told you. Yes, Jesus is also an advocate for us, I should have read that carefully. That doesn't mean the argument is void. The commenting from the NAB reads: 12 [19] Therefore: since universal power belongs to the risen Jesus (Matthew 28:18), he gives the eleven a mission that is universal. They are to make disciples of all nations. While all nations is understood by some scholars as referring only to all Gentiles, it is probable that it included the Jews as well. Baptizing them: baptism is the means of entrance into the community of the risen one, the Church. In the name of the Father . . . holy Spirit: this is perhaps the clearest expression in the New Testament of trinitarian belief. It may have been the baptismal formula of Matthew's church, but primarily it designates the effect of baptism, the union of the one baptized with the Father, Son, and holy Spirit. I believe this verse is true, as would most Christians. I answered your question. The Advocate Christ speaks of is the Holy Spirit. This is SHOWN in the two verses give. Can't say it's made up baloney if it's right there in bold letters. Accept or deny the Holy Spirit being the one Jesus promised the Father would send that came from Him, that's the option. Obfuscating?? Read over this again: How do you propose the Father, who sits on His throne, keeps an active, responsive, real presence? His presence possesses personality, part of the mystery of God. Ths Holy Spirit is not to be underscored. This "Counselor, Advocate, Holy Spirit" isn't an "it", it's a personality. |
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