the scriptures you use always talk of false brothern, false aposals, false teachers, and the Like. It never says that they were true believers, and then became unbelievers. Just because a wolf dawns a lamb skin, does not make him a sheep. He is still a wolf. 1 John 2:19[ They went out from us, but they were not of us: for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us; but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
2 peter2: 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, the dog is turned to his own vomit again, and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. Notice that this scripture does not say that the dog became a sheep then became a dog again, nor does it say that the pig became a sheep, and then became a pig again. the dog and the pig never became a new creature. Yes false brothern will fall away because they are false and do not have the security to endure to the end. On the day of Judgment, the Lord does not say I knew you, now I don't, He says I NEVER KNEW YOU. If I am to believe you, then it would have said I knew you, then I don't know you. Also the scripture tells us that just because someone looks like something of God don't mean that they are. 2Corinthians 11:13-15.
you must excuse me for believing Christ when He told me as His sheep, purchased with His blood, My sheep here my voice,and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shalll never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
You acuse me of being self centered, and yet all my post have put Christ first. I do not see your post lifting up the name of Jesus hardly at all. all you have done is try to tare down and destroy, and condemn.
I know the voice of the one who says He didn't come to condemn, but to save eternaly those who are condemned. The voice of the Lord is nowhere to be found in your post. I have answered every question with the word. But you are not into seeking truth, you simple want to line folks up on your theological fireing squad if they don't agree with you . You have not given an honest look at what I have posted here. my post are all about the Lord Jesus Christ, not some hypothetical stories designed to bring bondage to the herers. My faith is not based on what ifs, but on the solid rock of Christ alone by grace through faith. Over and over again the scripture tells me that I am secure in Him.