Christian/Muslim ThreadsThe Miracles of IslamGreetings Abdurrahman,
First of all, you really need to get off the false Muslim mantra of thinking that the Koran is 1400 years old, because it surely is not. The oldest extant fragment of a sura is dated to a century AFTER the life and times of your “prophet”…. Hardly intact…..and hardly complete….and hardly old… Secondly, you once again seem pretty proud of your beloved “holy” book by taking yet another one-hit wonder out from its context. Let’s compare it to the Holy Bible…. Joseph’s Dream, Koran: (12:4-6) Joseph’s Dream, Book of Revelation: (Gen 37:9-11) Koran When Joseph said to his father: "You my father that I, I saw eleven star(s) and the sun and the moon, I saw/them to me prostrating." “You, my son, do not relay/inform your dream on (to) your brothers, so they conspire/plot to you a plot/conspiracy, that the devil (is) to the human/mankind a clean evident/enemy.” And as/like that your Lord chooses/purifies you and teaches/informs you from the information's/speech's interpretation/explanation, and He completes His blessing on you, and on Jacob's family, as/like He completed it on your fathers (forefathers) before, Abraham, and Isaac, that your Lord (is) knowledgeable, wise/judicious. (12.4-6) Holy Bible And he dreamed still another dream, and told it to his brothers. And he said, Behold, I have dreamed another dream: And, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars were bowing themselves to me. And he told it to his father, and to his brothers. And his father rebuked him, and said to him, What is this dream which you have dreamed? Shall we indeed come to bow ourselves to the earth to you, I, your mother, and your brothers? And his brothers were jealous of him. But his father observed the word. (Gen 37.9-11) Since you are “amazed” that the Koran could make such a statement…..you must be absolutely BLOWN AWAY to discover that the Book of Genesis originated this material thousands of years BEFORE the Koran was even penned….! Now….that it is beyond ANY reasonable doubt as to where the authors of the Koran copied their material from, we can take a more detailed look at your one-hit ayah… إِذْ قَالَ يُوسُفُ لِأَبِيهِ يَا أَبتِ إِنِّي رَأَيْتُ أَحَدَ عَشَرَ كَوْكَبًا وَالشَّمْسَ وَالْقَمَرَ رَأَيْتُهُمْ لِي سَاجِدِينَ Ith qala yoosufu li-abeehi ya abati innee raaytu ahada AAashara kawkaban waalshshamsa waalqamara raaytuhum lee sajideena 12.4 When Joseph said to his father: "You my father that I, I saw eleven star(s) and the sun and the moon, I saw/them to me prostrating." كَوْكَبًا = “kawkaban” “kawkaban” definition: An Arabicized word from the Hebrew word כּוֹכָבִ “kokab” (TWOT #942a) which means star; and that ignorance of its being so has caused the Arabs to dispute respecting its formation. Masculine. Star, constellation; whiteness in the eye; dew drops that fall upon herbage in the night and become like stars; water source of a well; water; brightness of iron; sword; a nail; main part; youth in the prime of life, chief of horsemen; garden flower; asterism; tract which differs in color from the land in which it lies; youth who has attained the period of adolescence and who’s face has become beautiful; armed man; mountain; chief, lord, or prince, and horseman, or cavalier of a people. The greater part, chief part, main, gross, mass, or bulk of a thing; as of herbage, water, an army. The flower, or flowers of a garden, or meadow; toadstool, mushroom. Vehemence of heat. Place of confinement; an assembly, a company; a congregated body. It comes from the root “kaukaba”, which means to shine, glisten. It (iron) glistened; was lustrous, or bright. References: An Arabic-English Lexicon, E.W. Lane, volume seven, p. 2623 The Dictionary of the Holy Qur’an, 1st edition, Abdul Mannan Omar, p. 500 Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament (TWOT), R. Laird Harris, Gleason L. Archer, Jr., Bruce K. Waltke, pp. 425 - 426 So…..as we can all see for ourselves…..the Holy Bible is, once again, required to come to the aid of the Koran. The Holy Bible is absolutely required to constantly correct, and clarify the interpretation of the Koran… The Koran is a lost sheep without the Holy Bible. Just accept this fact. The authors of Koran did. So can you. BTW….you seem mighty proud of your “prophet’s” amazing abilities to copy material from the Holy Bible… Take care… |
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