Christian/Muslim ThreadsWho is Peace2God’sPeople?One thing a person like Peace2God'sPeople doesnt need you to do is mislead him and indeed you have by quoting out out of context of our book. We are not Christians whom allow their oppressors to bucher them. We are to defend our selves when beign oppressed adn wrogn unjustly. We as muslims are only to fight to defend our selves if we are attacked FIRST This was the first and STANDARD rule on fighting. WE are to fight only in sefl defence of an attacker whom is to bring harm to us. All the verses in the Quran that deal with fighting fall under this verse. I would like to know why you quoted this verse from the Quran it has nothing to do with war. This verse is speaking about the civilizations that Allah destroyed in the past such as Egypt, Babylon, Sodom and Gomora etc for their sin after a messenger adn his grace was sent to them while warning them. These countries were wealty productive Allah gave them respite adn gave them enbough rope to hang themselves. America is all these former countries in one and blasphemies in G-d's name saying in G-d we trust but allowing the sins to be practiced like that of former nations that were distroyed by his wrath. And again show the context when you are going to quote our book it is not the Bible. [17"13] Every man's fate We have fastened on his own neck: on the Day of Judgment We shall bring out for him a scroll, which he will see spread open. [17] (It will be said to him "Read thine (own) record; sufficient is thy soul this day to make out an account against thee." [17] Who receiveth guidance, receiveth it for his own benefit: who goeth astray doth so to his own loss: no bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another: nor would We visit with Our Wrath until We had sent a Messenger (to give warning). [17] When We decide to destroy a population, We (first) send a definite order to those among them who are given the good things of this life and yet transgress; so that the word is proved true against them: then We destroy them utterly. [17] How many generations have We destroyed after Nuh? And enough is thy Lord to note and see the sins of His servants. [17] If any do wish for the transitory things (of this life), We readily grant them such things as We will, to such persons as We will: in the end have We provided Hell for them: they will burn therein, disgraced and rejected. As you go on Loki you are making things worse for what is suppose to be Christianity. According to what translation ? if you are talking about Abdullah Yusuf Ali's translation : You must be talking about the phrase " ...has given the one more (strength) than the other..." to mean the man is given strenght over the woman. This is a typical western perception indeed. In fact that phrase in Arabic is in ALL MASCULINE refering to that Allah has given more to some men than other men in which the context reflects wealth. Men are caretakers upon Women because Allah has favored some of them(men) above other (men)....etc That is what the verse explicitly means in Arabic.
Why shouldnt a woman be devoted and obedient to her husband ? What did you Bible say in Genesis ? Man is to rule over woman according to your book. If I am the maintainer/caretaker/protector of a woman she should be devout and obedient to her husband.
"Nushooz" which is applied to a rude, contentious, perverse, flirting, disrespecting woman whom also violates the ties of marriage. Men are to handle such wives in the fashion. 1) to admonish them first, if they do not stop 2) then stop sharing the bed with them, if they do not stop 3) hit them "idhribahunna" meaning a single hit and not yudhribahunna or mudhribahuun to express repetitive strikes or hits as you would imagine in your western thinking of a rocky boxing match. and then after all that Allah says in the end "..seek not against them means (of annoyance).." in which she is not to be injured. The only place a woman is to be hit under this rule is on her "buttom". And the next verse stipulates if this method does not solve the problem the seek counciling if this doesnt work then DEVORCE ! WoOHOo ! What does your bible say about the rights of women ? Hmm ! I want our lovely audience to notice that Loki never confirms what he reads he merely does teh Copy/Paste magic trick to make people think he is learnt in Islam while in fact he is not, his scooling of islam is obtained from Anti Islamic websites hosted by followers of Jesus. This is blunt proof that Christian like Loki never confirm what they read they just take it as because another Christian says so as it is agaisnt Islam. [2] Divorced women shall wait concerning themselves for three monthly periods. Nor is it lawful for them to hide what Allah hath created in their wombs, if they have faith in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands have the better right to take them back in that period, if they wish for reconciliation. And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree (of advantage) over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise. This is the verse I think Loki in error was trying to quote. but did he ever read it to see what it says ? No of course not cause he had no idea where it was or not or if the quotation he got was correct. "degree " is translated from the arabic word "darajah" the following is tafseer on the verse by the Muslim Women's League : I can just imagine the other stuff your sources tainted as well. |
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