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This is the islamic fallacy of tu qoque Did Jesus order us as christians to kill husbands and rape the wives of the dead husbands? do you know what progressive revelation is? do you know what the punishment for adultery as stated in the old testament is? Do you know why Jesus did not carry out this punishment when a woman was brought to him accused of adultery? Do you know progressive revelatiom does not regress in morals? Yes or no? did Mohammed? yes or no? do you know rape is wrong? can you admit to yourself that rape is wrong? or rape must be right because your demonic manual says so? would you believe right is left because your demonic manual says so? Knowing the muslim mentality I know you can and will say this to justify the madness you believe in. is your point that rape was done in the past, Mohammed raped (you do know Mohammed raped do you not?) so rape is good? I know it hurts knowing your role model is a rapist, how does it feel knowing fully well you emulate a rapist? raping women because he was impotent and could not sire a son, don't you feel ashamed? I don't really know who you are talking about, this practice of burning villages to the ground and gathering the womenfolk for rape by the mujahedin actually has an islamic term, called hirabah. This age old islamic tradition of surprising villages with mujaheddin on horseback still goes on in Sudan. You know the fellow is dead, allah can't pray for him and send him salvation or any of the angels, he is not a prophet, I am yet to see one thing he prophecied, and you won't go to hell for not writing saw after his name, you do know you are supposed to write saw don't you? why didn't you?, did the beheadings of innocent hostages from your peaceful religion in Iraq cause you some discomfort writing SAW?? What are you saying here? which christian follows levitical law? which jew practices wiping out the amalekites the hittites or the canaanites to this day? can we say the same about sura 4:34 and the verses of jihad? and the verse of raping women whom your right hand has possesse?d are they still not incumbent on muslims everywhere for all time? if the answer is yes what exactly is your point? christians are not ordered to rape and kill, neither are jews, what is your point exactly? muslims can rape and kill because the jews were ordered to wipe out the hittites, the amalekites the canaanites, which they didn't do, what exactly is your point?, everybody is a rapist, is a burner of villages, so you can continue believing burning villages and raping womenfolk was ordained for mankind for all eternity by God?, only a demon can emit such a message and only a brainwashed individual can believe it.
Let me tell you a well known secret that is a little amusing depending on how you look at it. See the Israelites didn't actually carry out that command, if they did you wouldn't be here typing this filth, and your ancestors in your faith wouldn't have raped india, the middle east, africa, and northern europe carrying out that heroic of practices called hirabah. It seems you are reading the bible like you are reading that mish mash plagiarised material called your koran, if you are going to quote and assimilate biblical material care to quote it in the proper context, unlike your koran Deut 13 does not follow Deut 20.
You have made no point other than to argue in a typical muslim's tu quoque logical fallacy. if Mohammed was in the footsteps of Jesus why contradict all Jesus said, and even backtrack and contradict levitical laws Jesus surpassed?? we do not live in the past, we only have the present and the future, I know it is hard for a muslim to comprehend that times have moved, the glorious era of the middle ages where islam invaded and caused havoc in the Middle East, Asia and Europe so called glorious because jihad was being waged (which is the only glorious era you will find in islam, where islam caused the conflict and was winning the conflict, so much for the religion of peace). If you are following in the footsteps of Jesus why contradict all He said, so you can collect booty and women, this is what a crook does, money and women???
This is an oxymoron if I ever heard one, it is obvious you don't know what you are talking about, only regurgitating lies you have read on websites. There is no context with your koran, ayats are arranged with ease of memory, one ayat could be talking about killing the infidel and hell has been planned for him, and the next because because... allah is merciful revealed some 10 years earlier, it is a mish mash of gooblydegook, plagiarised tales from christian, jewish sources and apocrypha mix with a dash of zoroastrian, quraish and other pagans' poems and legends. Maybe you should stick to attacking because it is obvious you cannot defend the indefensible.
LOL is this what you do make a new name after being refuted again and again, and start your game all over again? There are still several threads awaiting your response.
Are you saying it is ok to rape? You forget or never knew the Israelites never carried out that command, those tribes weren't wiped out and their descendants brought hell on earth to many others via your peaceful religion, in a world without penicillin you cut the leg to save the body, in a world with penicillin you administer penicillin and no longer cut the leg, your logic unbelievable as it sounds, is to cut the leg even though treatment is available, we used to hack limbs so lets just continue hacking limbs off even though penicillin is available, you just have to be stupified by a muslim's logic. The irrational logic of a muslim really is unsurpassed in religious theology without a shadow of a doubt, in order to justify your demonic religion you look for any atrocity in the bible and align it with christianity, christians are not commanded to rape or commit hirabah like your exemplar, what part of this don't you understand?? I have had this discussion with you before, I am still awaiting your sources of these christians that did not believe in Jesus...or are you going to make another name as you do when your position is no longer tenable? what difference does this have on Mohammed raping and enslaving women and children? what difference does this have on Mohammed raping and enslaving women and children? what difference does this have on Mohammed raping and enslaving women and children? what difference does this have on Mohammed raping and enslaving women and children? a homosexual was beheaded in that 'moderate' of islamic countries Iran a few days ago. what difference does this have on Mohammed raping and enslaving women and children? you know it's a little strange islamic despot leaders kill thousands of their own, but not a word is spoken by their fellow muslims. It is enshrined in your book, we have Mohammed raping and his followers practicing coitus interruptus with women after killing their husbands, Mohammed fondling and violating the womb of a pre-puberty little girl still playing with her dolls, practicing incest, polygamy, adultery, fornication and his rightly guided caliphs and followers practicing the same thing, all recorded in sahih (authentic) ahadith, tafsirs and islamic history for anyone to have a look at. Unable to defend this what can you do? Oh I see you are going to make everybody rapists? so you feel good that you are following a rapist?? is this really a muslim's logic? I am afraid it is you, the 5% in the west that are the minority, in the real islamic world, Osama is a hero, terrorists are supported financially or otherwise across the islamic ummah, either you are living in cloud cuckoo land thinking the 'moderates' represent the majority or you are lying, I suspect it's the latter. I actually burst out laughing reading this, for a split second I thought I was reading a comedy sketch and was expecting the punchline, great service for humanity like the cutting off of the hands for thieves so the thief will never use those hands ever again, the shariah court sanctioned gang raping for family dishonour, the shariah court verdicts for rape victims to marry their attackers, or rape victims to be stoned for their crime of being raped, your religion is a laughing stock, it is a sick and twisted joke eminating from nowhere else but the pit of hell. Just listen to yourself, trying to make everybody a rapist, so you can be on a par, aren't you ashamed? Muslim aid is only unilateral, i.e. only to other muslims, you 'care' about nobody else but your fellow muslims, in reality even that is nothing but soundbites to make yourself feel good, it's like saying "God is great" while you decapitate the head of another hapless kaffir, aligning the Almighty with an immoral act, only islam could come up with this nonsense, and if not for the kaffir west helping your people out of disaster after disaster who knows what would have happened to them, because we both know the great ummah doesn't care less about it's own, only propagating lies that the demonic religion is growing like a virus. These clerics wouldn't happen to be living in the west, enjoying the creature comforts of the west would they?, knowing fully well if they said anything else, they might be brought up on incitement to hatred charges, in private they support their fellow mujaheddins and are practicing taqiyya (deception) to the ignorant west. What is ironic is this game is played again and again in the Middle East, the very people that sent out the suicide bombers are the ones that denounce the attacks (after the act ofcourse) to the west, the apologies are nothing but one sick joke. Do you know how many muslims in the west are willing to financially support their terrorist brethren in afghanistan, Iraq, Israel, chechnya et al? Do you know how many western muslims actually cross continents to aid their fellow brethren in jihad? A cleric was jailed last week for financially supporting al qeeda and sending money to Hamas in the United States, know what his son said? "everybody in Yemen support this organisations why don't the US jail everybody in Yemen?", if there was really any evidence of the clear divide between the weak iman moderate western muslim, and the real muslim outside of the west, that comment just about sums it up. Do you agree that terrorist fundraisers and financial backers should be treated as terrorists themselves according to the laws of the west?. If so are you willing to aide them halt terrorism by encouraging the vast majority of that 1.3 billion number to cease and desist their sympathy and financial backing of terrorism?
What you don't seem to realise is all these organisations have vested interests in saying these things, these are all western muslims, living in America, regarded as weak and apostate by the rest of the 95% of islam. Their fatwas are incumbent on no one, outside of the west they have to bow down to the imans of Al azhar and the two mosques in Mecca, this is the joke about western islam.
where? pls show me where God commanded Moses to rape little 3 year old girls, I can state ahadith after ahadith where Mohammed violated the womb of a six year old girl still playing with her dolls, it is because of this disgusting human being that vagina fistula vistula is on the increase in islamic countries, where little pre-puberty girls are made to take part in 'marriage' and are unable to conceive as their wombs have obviously not developed yet, leading to uncontrollable leakage of urine from their private part, only a brainwashed individual or a madman can believe this came from God. Pls show me where God told Moses to rape 3 year old girls. If you knew anything from your alledged christian background the least you could have done is read from Genesis onwards and see that these very people did the same to the Israelites, attacking their old and their young, and it was part revenge, and before you state the obvious we as christians are not under levitical law, what part of this don't you understand?? Ahhh so you know the meaning of pedophile, and you know your al insan, al kamil is a pedophile? The period of jahiliyya started when that demon possessed sexual lercher claimed he was speaking on behalf of God, since then, entire archaelogoical history of tribes were destroyed, women wee subjugated and made like cattle, it actually states a woman is a piece of farmland you do as you will in your koran, where are the notable women in islam, even Mohammed's first wife Khadijah was a business woman who Mohammed wasunder her employment, what happened when the lunatic declared his prophethood what happened to the rights of women? women are not even allowed to drive in saudi arabia and to be seen alone without a male companion or that face blanket puts you at risk of jail only in islam, islam has been bent on annihilation of all non muslims, and after that, annhilation of itself, soon after the death of that madman, Aisha and Ali his wife and son in law went to war killing 30,000 muslims in the process, war after war over interpretation of plagiarised verse, over how many pieces of toilet tissue to use, over which hand should be cut and what length above or below the elbow should the cut be made and what to wear while inflicting allah's punishment, fast forward to today, where 90% of all conflicts is islam related, if not for oil which the arabs never worked a day for, and still need the kaffir equipment and expertise to extract their hard earned oil, that percentage would be a whole lot higher, and it is well known that money is used to sponsor terrorism. |
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