ArchivedOSAS revisited
How is it translated "If you continue, then you will." if the "if" clause is always considered to be true because it is followed by an indicative verb? "then" does not set forth an affirmative which brings me back to my first correct rendering in the Greek grammar and why since is the proper word used here: "Since you will persevere in the faith" And as for God breaking the seal when believers "fall away", I knew you would pose this question which is why I made the effort to expound in my previous post that God (cannot and will not) break the seal of His promise, here is that passage in is entirety: Ephesians 1:13 - In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of (promise) Are you trying to say that God retracts His promises? Promise:[1860] (for information, assent or pledge; especially a divine assurance of good):--message, promise And as for Matthew 24 and 1 Timothy 4 would be a contradiction to Gods word which is an impossibility. I notice that you quote (Matt. 24:10) using the NAS version which BTW is an outstanding version, however in the Greek grammatical rendering, the word "offended"{skandalizo}which the NAS translates as "fall away" is also used in the EXACT context of (Matt. 26:31) which reads: Matthew 26:31 - Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad. Now we know for a FACT that the Disciples did not lose their Salvation because the atonement of Christ's sacrifice had not been fulfilled yet, and secondly we are absolutely certain that the disciples DID NOT completely depart from their faith, therefore Matt. 24:10 does not affirm that Genuine Believers will depart from their faith and somehow lose their Salvation. And there is no verse in 1 Tim. 4 that shows that Salvation can be lost.
Aineo, I believe that I have explained this passage before, and if not: Verses 26-31 contain the fourth warning passage of (Hebrews 2:1-4). The surrounding verses (19-31) contain related exhortations, but the warning itself is limited to these verses. They warn of the critical danger of turning from Christ's once-for-all, perfect sacrifice back to their old ways. IF we sin willfully reveals that this act is deliberate. It parallels the sin of Numbers 15:30,31. When one willingly or defiantly disobeyed God, there was no sacrifice for such apostasy. He had to die. This is the nature of sin in verse 26. Verse 28 seems to allude to Deuteronomy 17:2-7. These verses record that upon the testimony of two or three witnesses, death by stoning was the punishment for (apostasy)-going after and serving false gods (Deut. 17:2) Now in verse 29, the one who would despise the person of Jesus and His ministry as High Priest is worthy of even greater judgment. Verse 29 due to the verb and the participles used, should not be understood as judgment that has happened because of such apostasy, but as judgment that would happen should such apostasy occur. The author places his recipients and himself (we) under this warning just as he did in the earlier warnings, NOTE: Paul was persuaded (peitho), the perfect tense which is an indications that Paul was persuaded in the past and remains so now, that God is able to keep the assurance of his Salvation which is committed to him against that day. (2 Tim. 1:12), in other words, Paul was absolutely certain without a hint of doubt that his Salvation was secured [Even Dan Corner Himself agrees], and yet he (Paul) is among the recipients of Hebrews 10:16-31, therefore this passage is purely hypothetical in nature! Furthermore by doing so he demonstrates that the warnings are intended for the saved as well as for the unsaved. Yet, here, as in Chapter 6, the author does not say that anyone has committed this sin! He describes what would happen, not what has happened. He is describing a hypothetical situation. The stern admonition of this warning, and all others found in scripture, is God's means to ensure our perseverance, and those who Genuinely Believe will adhere to these commands because the Spirit gives us understanding of it. God Bless! |
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