tedlusk wrote:
Finally, an admission of error of representation!
i'll gladly admit such things. which is more than i can say for you.
But that is not what your original claim was - your original claim was "the fact that the Bible has been tried and tested and proven to be accurate on everything it touches (be it morality, creation, philosophy, history, logic, science or whatever)..."
I asked what science was in the bible, you give me that silly "dinosaur" description and some vague verse about 'unseen forces.'
well, i refuted already your dismissal of the "dinosaur" passages, and the "spericity of the earth" passages.
i never meant to give some exhaustive amount of evidence of scientific accuracy in the Bible. it's not a science text book, but is accurate when it addresses such things.
OH, please... Just because you have been brainwashed into rejecting anything that does not conform to an ancient book of fairy tales is no reason to insult everyone else's intellience. Quite unlike you (and your hero Sarfati), my research and graduate education dealt directly with the issues involved in evolution. I have SEEN the evidence myself. If you actually uinderstand it, it is very convincing. Just ask Kurt Wise.
your whole belief system is bankrupt. the very fact that you were able to FREELY THINK through the evidence, shows that what you believe is wrong.
Yeah, I mean it is in the pledge of allegiance, it is on our money, heck - it is even in the oaths that many have to take! It is mentioned at convocations and commencement. It is mentioned by politicians at the clese of nearly every speech. It is just inescapable!
clever. however, it's not merely that the word "evolution" is on all the examples i gave, like the word "God" in all your examples (a term which has actually become a very loose term today because "God" can mean so many different things to so many different poeple), i'm talking about a fully funded and driven campaign that goes FAR beyond simply the mention of the word "evolution". even to the point that if you disagree with the "sacred cow" of evolution you get laughed at (like in the highly popular "Jurassic Park") or called an ignorant fundamentalist or some such denigration. your faith has gone far beyond simply a word on a dollar bill or on a coin.
It is not 'crammed down' anyone's thorats anymore than the theory that germs cause disease is. I am not lying. I cannot help it that you are programmed to think this way, many in your camp are. It is sad really.
you ARE lying. you're either lying or are ignorant. i just showed you how you're lying.
Yes, it is silly to simply assert things that you want to be so and insist that they are that way.
Not understanding something is not a rational reason to insist something cannot be true.
I see that you do not understand how the environment can influence "new information", but that is no reason to dismiss it so glibly. When environmental influence can be demonstrated to influence "information", it is even more ridiculous to dismiss it.
logically it can't. there's not telos, so it makes no sense. everything is random and can't be directed in that sense.
LOL!
Classic. You simply cannot believe your strawman, so you knock it down with personal incredulity! Brilliant creationist logic!
Since you still have not/cannot define 'information', your entire line of "reasoning" is pure garbage.
Let me know when you actually understand any of this material. You are clearly on autopilot here.
sorry. read again, and think again.
Via selection. See - you do not even have a basic understanding of the very thing you are arguing against! Incredible...
WRONG. selection works on THAT WHICH HAS ALREADY MUTATED OR DUPLICATED OR WHATEVER. i'm talking about the driving force for the MUTATIONS AND DUPLICATIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
if the driving force for these duplications and whatever is mutations, then all is strictly accidental. there's no telos so there's no direction. so "selection" is wrong. try again.
Please, show me the support.
What ARE the odds you speak of and how, exactly, were they determined?
look at my Bible analogy i keep giving.
there is no telos, so there is no goal or direction and all is accidental. you make the connection.